To Downvoters and my ex-followers, I'd like to continue my blog

지난달

The reward I am receiving is strongly influenced by the amount of my SP.
Actually I got heavy loss in the Steemit investment.
So the reward at this price is not so important for me.
I will power down my SP to reduce my reward.

What I want to do now is continuing my blog.
I admit that I'd like to upvote for my followers who support me in the old steem period.

But in this circumstance, it is impossible to continue my loyalty to my old friends.
@ranchorelaxo and @haejin, thank you for your support
But don't vote for me, please.
I don't want to be a battleground.

I want to continue my work.
I have studied Buddhist and traditional culture in Korea for 3 years.
Steemit was nice place for me to continue my daily job, even though it was not good for the investment.

I could find out many interesting things in the process of daily writing.
What matters than the price of Steem was the fact that Steem made me continue my daily writing after my retirement.

Please Don't upvote for me my friends, I can not vote for you.
I will vote at random. I will vote for small SP holders.

One thing we think is the way of newsteem movement.
If we force someone to stop writing blogs for the reward with mass downvote,
it is not different from the strongest censorship, in my guess.

I had joined Steemit 3 years ago for the vision of no-censorship blog.

Anyway, I'd like to continue my blog on my culture and history, if you permit.
Please wait for several weeks during powering down my SP.

If I am prohibited from writing in steemit, what should I do?

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I read some comments that I should continue my posting!
No worries, friend! I will keep posting no matter how much reward I get.
Exploring Buddhist culture is a big part of my life, so I will never give up easily on that!

Powering down takes several weeks.
I might get high rewards continuously for 13 weeks until powering down complete.
However, I will keep post about my travel even though I will not get many rewards after several weeks.

Please, don't misunderstand that I quit my blog.

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There's not much for me to add to what the other commenters have said here. Many of us have been hoping that people in your situation will draw from the reward pool less, and concentrate on more on raising the value of steem. You and some others have so much latent ability to do so through your stake, it's more sad to me than anything else when this potential isn't achieved. I believe that one of the primary methods we can all accomplish this is through supporting new and undervalued blogs, not by directing the majority of support to established orcas and whales. It's true there is value to individuals such as yourself holding large amounts of steem, but there is so much more value in getting more of the reward pool to smaller blogs to energize them to keep posting more content, and even possibly purchase more steem on the open market. Any number of the commenters here could help you both maximize your curation rewards, as well as your impact. I've always had the impression that you want to be a positive force, but it's easy for all of us to get locked into old patterns, and that's understandable. I would only suggest before making any hasty decisions, that you experiment with adjusting those patterns and see what happens. You might actually be pleasantly surprised.

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vlemon answer to your lobby group

No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

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I'm his friend and I'm not even on the fucking list.

Your argument is invalid.

Edit: Just realized that isn't even @joshman's voting pattern. Gosh, wtf is this?

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I guess we should all now vote only for you.

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What's wrong? Can't stand that your friend is WRONG?

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Wow, just wow. I wasn't even paying attention to that.

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If you use these words in communication then you do not deserve to be a part of comments and blogs at all because we need professionals and cultural people.

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I value this comment

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You sound to me like the empty planet on steenit so far

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Hey look, another sockpuppet account from the moron squad. It's steemit moron, not steenit. Thanks for the laughs, keep it up.

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Anytime
Thank you for intro

Hi Slowwalker it was obvious that earlier or later it will come this way.

I think the people bellow have a reason to celebrate a PARTY today they reached what they wanted to reach, to make one of the oldest investor to Power Down:

@OCDB
@curangel
@cervantes
@transisto
@theaustrianguy
@acidyo
@trafalgar
@smooth
@likwid
@joshman
@justineh
@justtryme90
@randowwhale
@lafona-miner
@delegate.lafona
@mmmkkk311
@sportsvoter
@eonwarped
@lebin
@holm
@leeyh
@waybeyongpadthai
@ctime
@joshmani
@ibc
@amico

Reading the comment chain it is funny how some of those people come and try to look innocent, like a white knight fighting for the right of Steemians. Actually that reminds me a dictatorship, bullying and even I have to think about the time when in early years of establishing of Soviet Union how the wealth of rich people, farmers were taken away with explanation now it belongs to the PEOPLE. Have we really reach that point?

What I also find funny, that those people are not upset about @slowwalker decision but just ready to accept his Steem Power as delegation, most probably to keep destroying others and having control on Steemit. The others are ready to buy his Steem. Maybe that was a reason behind of all downvoting to get your Steem Power for them?

I do not understand how such curation projects like @OCDB and @curangel can downvote constantly, If those people who delegated steem power to curation projects are aware about. Because we all know that there is Downvote trails and the people who want to give their SP for that know that. But those two are curation project and I am not sure if all the delegators know what the power is used for.

Unlike other here I would advice you @slowwalker not to delegate to anyone and not to sell to those guys, rather invest in any other cryptocurrency. I am glad you will keep posting, do not let them to stop you. You have many friends around because YOU ARE SUPPORTING MANY ACCOUNTS manually and on daily basis!
I would be not surprised if after this comment I will also be in blacklist of those above listed guys, but I do not care, I am FREE to tell what I think, nobody has taken my right for FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Cheers...

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I support what you write here @stef1

This has now gone too far.
Downvote posts all the way down to zero that have good content get totally sick. They say that other posts deserve to come on the Trend page and they can do that for those who give the massive downvote the strength to do it with upvote as well.

I'm getting sick of what's happening here now, it's not often I get pissed and use ugly words, but it's just before now.
But can't you just post a button that says I don't want my post to come on the trends page.
Everyone is not keen on their post to reach the trends page. I, for my part, am not keen on my posts reaching the trend page.

Can't you also just add a button that says a I will not earn more than $ 30 max on my post and if there is more profit it will go back into the pool. That button can be similar to the slider we use today on upvote / downvote. right to simply set the max amount on it or lower
For those of you who think you have the solution with downvote have to think again, you are about to destroy instead of building the platform.

You will not be allowed to decide who I have as my friends here and who I support.
This is a social network and you have to understand it. you have to stop such an aggressive policy when you downvote a post to zero, it was meant to kill @slowwalker completely, yes you almost managed to do it.
You can't believe that you want to make his posts invisible, you have gone completely crazy.
Why hasn't this post to @slowwalker been downvote, so far it stands at $ 54 and see who has given the highest upvote, it's @pharesim.

**Now it looks like that post deserves $ 54, **

but not the usual posts to @slowwalker because then would surely downvote to zero again, Shame on you.

I do not have English as a native language, I am addicted to google translate
when I write a post and respond to comments. I have been doing this since I arrived here in July 2016. So my words and phrases are not always correct, but for now people have understood me

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Agree with you @xpilar. Indeed it went way to far

I can only hope that @slowwalker will decide to stay around and will change his mind. It would be enormous waste for our community to lose him.

But can't you just post a button that says I don't want my post to come on the trends page.

I also see being on trending page as some kind of curse. Attracting wrong kind of awzttention.

I, for my part, am not keen on my posts reaching the trend page.

What would be your reason behind it?

ps. why was slowwalker downvoted so heavily in the first place? was it because he delegated to some bot?

Yours, Piotr

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Hi @crypto.piotr

What would be your reason behind it?

The reason for that is that I am happy with those who follow me today and appreciate what I do. I would like to call it a community in the community. I can't understand why the trend page is so important to those who are now doing massive downvote, maybe that's where they find the ones they want to downvote. I wonder how many posts they read each day because it seems like the time they spend is going downvote.
Because they must first read what people write before giving a downvote or maybe not?

ps. why was slowwalker downvoted so heavily in the first place? was it because he delegated to some bot?

@slowwalker has not used any bot or delegated bot.
It's all about earning too much and often coming on the trend side and what they call a voting ring. For example, that I vote for @slowwalker for a long time and that he gives me a vote back again. @slowwalker is my friend for several years here and of course he has over time built friendships with many here who vote for him and he has manually voted back on an incredible number of friends. But now some of those friends have gone against him and vote him down. This is not fair because now there is another agenda here. As you can see there is an upvote per now $ 66 for the post he wrote. They have beaten him under the belt and voted him zero.
But now they give him upvote again, This is a double morality when they first crush people

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I agree with stef1 and you on this comment review.

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I don't have a dog in this fight, but the fact that you point to the people you tagged while ignoring the fact that @haejin / @ranchorelaxo (the same person) has been the worst abuser and downvoter of small accounts is pretty interesting.

The reward system of Steem tends to make a lot of users turn into brown nosing kiss assers. They often don't care about anyone aside from virtue signaling and fishing for upvotes on their content. Some of the more successful witnesses have found that you should play nice with people in hopes of getting their support instead of being open and frank about the problems that abound.

@slowwalker, I don't know much about you but your allegiance with @haejin / @ranchorelaxo most assuredly didn't help your reputation as someone that just wanted to share his blog and writings with the world.


Pretty much anyone that bought STEEM and powered it up has likely seen a decline in their "investment". I wouldn't take it very personal in that regard. One thing I notice though, you call downvotes "censorship" when your content has not been taken down or removed from the blockchain or pretty much any of the frontends. A few of your posts were probably downvoted into negatives which caused them to be "hidden" behind a button that users first had to click to read; but still, never were you censored.

Your posts appeared on the Trending page of SteemIt frequently. Moreso than many many other users that spent a lot of time researching and writing their content. Maybe they feel some kind of way that your mediocre content was surpassing theirs, though I can speak only for myself.


Hopefully you find a way to move forward from the drama and nonsense that runs rampant here on Steem. Hopefully you find a more lucrative "investment" if you indeed decide to relocate your funds.


Finally, if you don't care about rewards, you can always decline them when making your posts. That will send the loudest and most visible message that you really do not care about them in my opinion. When you decline rewards, they are returned into the rewards pool for all other authors.

Have a good day.

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Pretty much anyone that bought STEEM and powered it up has likely seen a decline in their "investment". I wouldn't take it very personal in that regard. One thing I notice though, you call downvotes "censorship" when your content has not been taken down or removed from the blockchain or pretty much any of the frontends. A few of your posts were probably downvoted into negatives which caused them to be "hidden" behind a button that users first had to click to read; but still, never were you censored.

This argument is made over and over, however, censorship is not absolute removal of information. Censorship is also suppression of information, which downvoting something and making it hidden does. It is also demonetization, something that has become a hot topic for social networks and content producers. Isn't Steem suppose to be an oasis from those kinds of things? I guess not...

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Cut the horseshit.

When you wind up like some users who are actually blocked from the frontends, then complain about "censorship".

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That is the stronger version of censorship, however, censorship is commonly understood to simply be intentional inhibiting of a message, concept or person. Journalists have referred to Hollywood blacklists of certain actors as a form of censorship.

A growing number of professional provocateurs and small businesses are calling Youtube demonetization as well as Patreon and major banking institutions refusal of service as a form of censorship. The refusal to allow the Proud Boys to have a bank account for selling their online products is one example. Another example is how Patreon deplatformed Jordan Peterson over his ideological viewpoints.

If the intent is to shut down or severely diminish the capabilities of a person due to your disagreement with that individual it is an act of censorship. You don't like the idea because you want the power to do with without having to face the heat of public opinion against censorship.

You wish to control the narrative, but Steem going down a censorship path is a very dumb thing to do considering the kind of people usually attracted to cryptocurrencies. You can call it horse shit all you want, you can pound your fist and tell yourself its not censorship until Steem is truly dead. But look at the reality of what is happening, major members of Steem are sick of Steem's toxic negative energy.

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major members of Steem are sick of Steem's toxic negative energy.

They brought it upon themselves with their greed.

There's literally no difference between having to scroll through comments being upvoted to several dollars and me clicking a button to reveal someone's "hidden" comment.

They both serve to diminish, or censorship, by your logic.

Only fools think downvotes are the only means to suppress messages.

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But the information is not suppressed, it's literally one click away from being shown. And that's on steemit, there are many frontends where those posts aren't even hidden.

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It’s about money. It’s always about money.

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Respectfully, please read the definition of suppressed. "Removed" is not a requirement for censorship, that is just the strongest version of censorship. Censorship is the taking of any action to eliminate OR diminish the message of someone else.

For example, I enjoy listening to Dave Rubin, who is a mild speaking libertarian. When he gives public talks it is common for people of opposing ideologies to sit in the audience and begin making noises with bells or some kind of jingling thing. These people are not preventing Dave Rubin from speaking, but they are trying to diminish or hinder his message by creating distracting noises. That is censorship.

Taking an action to diminish the visibility of someone's message is censorship, in whatever form it takes. The only reason people are arguing against the dictionary definition is because they like to pretend they are not on the side of censorship when in fact they are.

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Taking an action to diminish the visibility of someone's message is censorship, in whatever form it takes.

Upvote is censorship then as people have conveniently voted the message they want to be visible to the top.

Let’s be real here.

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That is called competition, not censorship. Upvoting someone is drastically different from picking an individual out to demonetize and reduce visibility. You are grasping for whatever poor excuse you can make to justify the way you want things.

Many people believe the solution to a lot of the censorship and crony capitalism on Steem is to remove POB from STEEM rewards and make it an optional feature of SMTs. That's what I am rooting for, otherwise, the downvote behavior is going to taint the entire platform.

If that happens then all you folk that like your downvote button can enjoy it with your own SMT. And I will not be bothering with that token.

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That is called competition, not censorship

Nonsense. That's assuming "proof of brain" actually exists. Look at this bloody thread. The only reason why people voting stuff up is because they think their comments need to be the ones that's visible.

Ever heard of "upvoted for visibility"?

If we make a SE token that can only be earned from being downvoted, then it’s okay?

Face it. It’s never about censorship. It’s always been about money for the likes of you. Only exploiters ever argue against downvoting.

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Suppression:

the act of preventing something from being seen or expressed

The need for one more click is not preventing me from seeing something. Again, this is on Steemit only. On other frontends you don't even need this click, so this is not censorship.

For example, I enjoy listening to Dave Rubin, who is a mild speaking libertarian. When he gives public talks it is common for people of opposing ideologies to sit in the audience and begin making noises with bells or some kind of jingling thing. These people are not preventing Dave Rubin from speaking, but they are trying to diminish or hinder his message by creating distracting noises. That is censorship.

I agree that this is a kind of censorship, but this whole situation is completely different from ours. If someone is making distracting noises so you can't hear a person speaking, is completely different than the need for one additional click to see the information.

It would be the same if you for example just could into another place in the room, where you can hear this guy speaking without any problems. Or when you wouldn't even be able to post on Steem in the first place.

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Okay, so let's talk about censorship a little more in depth. Censorship is not just shutting something down in an absolute way or removing something by force. Those people intentionally trying to hinder Dave Rubin's message are not shutting him down, they are only making his message harder to concentrate on for the audience. But we both agree that it is a form of censorship.

Before I try to drive my point home I would like to prime the discussion by bringing up the difference between a law/rule and a principle. Lawyers are masters of law, and yet they are a career with one of the lowest scores in public trust. This is because lawyers are known for effectively upholding the law while proficiently violating the principles for why law exists in the first place.

The argument its just a click away from being visible and not completely removed is the lawyer technique. This is why principles are superior to rules, because you can work around rules but we can all catch when a principle is being violated.

So, now let's get back to Steem. See, its very easy to pick one sentence but really, censorship is a concept and a principle of violating or inhibiting someone's free expression. Intent to hinder someone's ideas or expressions in an effort to prevent or diminish the awareness of those ideas by a third party or audience is always a violation of the principle identifying the badness of censorship.

Let's try something different. We can ask ourselves questions about the downvote feature on Steem and the intentions and actions of those using it and see how it fits.

Question #1:
Is the downvote button a tool that empowers others "to put down by authority or force"?

Answer:
Indeed sir!

Question #2:
Is the intent of the downvoting user "to keep from public knowledge"?

Answer:
You better believe it!

Question #3:
Are downvoters trying to use their "Steem Power" to prohibit behavior, ideas or expressions with the downvote feature?

Answer:
Yes again!

Question #4:
Are downvoters seeking to "to inhibit the growth or development of" the message with their downvote?

Answer:
Indubitably!

In closing, when it walks like a duck, its a god damn duck...

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Downvotes are primary a tool to regulate how rewards are distributed from the rewards pool. I don't know of a single downvoter that uses his power because he wants to censor other opinions. If somebody wanted to use downvotes as a censorship tool, they had to assume that the audience of the "censored" person uses steemit.com or another frontend that hides downvoted posts.

This is not censorship, first because of what I described above and second it doesn't make the Information harder to access, if you have to click one button. Or do you also think marking posts as NSFW is censorship?

What steeminc does to @thedarkoverlord is indeed censorship, because you don't even get to know about the existence of a post made by this account, in contrary to hiding posts.

I can't write a more detailed answer, as I'm on my phone right now.

Edit: And just because it walks on two feet, like ducks do, it hasn't to be a duck

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People seem to have so much self pity these days. I down vote what I believe is for the better. I don't have much if any contact with the majority of this list.

Slowwalkers content is fine, mediocre but fine. I just don't enjoy seeing 3 of his recent post in trending, especially because it all is because one big circle Jerk with people who are known to abuse the system in the past.

I support OCDB with my down votes because they are not afraid to take a stance against this kind of behavior. We are not a mafia, but a bunch of people who both have witnessed and knows how counter productive these kind of behaviors are to the community.

This is no dictatorship but actually just a response from the community. :-)

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This is respons by few member only.

They are listed by member comment above:

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@stef1· 2 days ago
Hi Slowwalker it was obvious that earlier or later it will come this way.

I think the people bellow have a reason to celebrate a PARTY today they reached what they wanted to reach, to make one of the oldest investor to Power Down:

@OCDB
@curangel
@cervantes
@transisto
@theaustrianguy
@acidyo
@trafalgar
@smooth
@likwid
@joshman
@justineh
@justtryme90
@randowwhale
@lafona-miner
@delegate.lafona
@mmmkkk311
@sportsvoter
@eonwarped
@lebin
@holm
@leeyh
@waybeyongpadthai
@ctime
@joshmani
@ibc
@amico
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You can see in that comment. Now entire community really knows who destroyed and nullified @slowwalker posts

This is shame .

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Look at the facts.

The minus team gives votes to the same people who are the best bloggers in New Steem.

There is no successful blogger who is not supported by the same group of people.

Now you must not vote for yourself, for the ones you love (the people you invited to invest the money as a brother, child, woman) because you need to vote for new users.

The idea of ​​helping new users is a utopia because people connect naturally when you break that social aspect, it's totally absurd to write posts at all.

Steem support is finite, instead of giving downvotes the final output number should be made and inflation prevented.

Someone who has not invested a single cent is now acting as a judge, in which business model it is normal for investors to be disrespectful. These same users get rewards for posting one picture of a game, or 3 pictures of a mountain from the same lobby group that does justice.

Then whales don't need to tap posts and vote for themselves and their loyal servants, everyone should vote randomly for new users, and if that's the point then there's no need to write at all.

This is a new mistake that will cost us a lot more, why no one calls all the whales and orcs into the conversation, but rather something is done without question - normally when someone has the plan and interest to take down some whales and be the absolute ruler of the New Steem dictatorship.

The idea of ​​supporting new users is a good one, but it is essentially utopian for a social networking site like Steemit, especially in this downstream way, and the same judges vote for their people - there is no realization.

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It's a shame how these guys policing and ruining steemit and steem.

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These guys all support each other too.....making them the biggest circle jerkers off all time. Nobody should be buying Steem right now......just Join the KGB above and reap the rewards when anyone disagrees with you. Steemit is slowly dying and the group above are the centralized dictators.

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You of all people know what a circle jerker is, don't you buddy? You are in the same boat as this guy aren't you?

If I didn't find your behavior so freaking ridiculous it would almost be funny. Your hypocrisy is almost as big and fat as your gut and your ego. Do you ever wonder if your behavior, the same behavior you brought with you to your buddy Stewies site, could partially be involved in the slow death of the network?


Quit stroking your ego and virtue signaling and do something about your bullshit. At least @slowwalker claims he is going to be changing his behavior in hopes of a #newsteem. Maybe you should take a lesson from him instead of trying to shit stain all the time.

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I turned my auto voter off long before slowwalker did douche bag....check the stats that don’t lie. Your opinion matters very little to me anyway, actually respect @pharesim and @acidyo more than you and that’s saying something. Get your Steem power up...your acct looks hungry as a hippy.

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And somehow he’s still more valuable to Steem than you...

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Riiight.....with his stack of FBI Cease and Desist orders.

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Did Stuart tell you he got the FBI involved and you swallowed it up like you have been his cum since he got you to waste your money in his unsanctioned ICO? If anyone should be worried about the FBI or government intervention it is him. But don't worry, I'll prove it to you later if you want.

"His stack of Cease and Desist orders" lmao

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Thanks but no need to defend me to this asshat. He is mad because he literally lost 99%+ of his $50-100k investment in VIT and I like to poke his fat belly about it to remind him.

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I was just stating a fact 🤷‍♀️ Didn’t know you boys had just a love history..

But our dear bronc did try to teach me a lesson by removing his witness vote for a curation project ... that will really show me 😃

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Cheers

This is the real point of the story, everyone on the list has the support of the same group of people, and yet they think they can do whatever they want.

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I am reading this further.
I agree with you.
Also look the words. "The big delegators " of course they are looking mainly for their benefits. This guys only care for big delegators. Now we can all see in comment. It is shame that for other smaller delegators they think of so little. Should they all know what is their downvote delegation pool used for???? For example nullifying @slowwalker posts and other censorship to steemit blogging freedom. Now we all see how small vision they have mainly for themselves and even smaller vision for steemit platform.

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Oh don't worry. The big delegators all know what they do support. The downvote trails are even bigger, and growing.
The community is finally standing up against selling and trading votes. Only those who want to keep using the reward pool for their personal gains keep complaining. Those do not support the community as a whole, and we're better off without them.
Every steem that doesn't go towards self rewarders is available again for the rest of the users. That's why we see a lot of small authors earn more these days than before the free downvotes were introduced. This will allow the community to grow, and everyone who participates will profit.

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You must be joking, @pharesim. Small blogs are dying here right now. It's carnage, as you can see in this post and especially in the comments:

Whale Tip! Only YOU Can Save NewSTEEM

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Are you referring to this blog as a "small blog"? You realize he is consistently on Trending with content that is far worse than the majority of the actual small blogs on Steem? The entire point of downvoting the highest earners is to improve earnings for the smaller authors and content creators.

The ENTIRE POINT of the 7 day voting period on a post is to allow people to use their stake to decide what is under or over rewarded. You are not entitled to post earnings until the 7 day voting period has ended and you receive a payout.

No one is taking money from anyone's account. If you are aware of "small blogs" with valuable content that you feel are under rewarded, why are you not making an effort to help them get exposure so they can get more votes?

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Whoa Cowboy! Read the comment in context, @netuoso. I was replying to this pharism guy saying that small blogs are doing great now when they are actually dying.

I was not talking about slowwalker at all in that comment.

If you are aware of "small blogs" with valuable content that you feel are under rewarded, why are you not making an effort to help them get exposure so they can get more votes?

I feel you need to look at my small blog to see all I do here.

My most recent summary of Minnow Tips is here:

You CAN Succeed on STEEM

Trying to teach bigs how to curate without spending all day on it is here:

Whale Tip! How to Curate Contests on STEEM and Help Small Bloggers Grow

And here:

Whale Tip! Vote for Pre-Curated STEEM Posts

And here:

Whale Tip! Only YOU Can Save NewSTEEM

How I curate for tipu is here:

My @tipu Curator Tale - How I Find Your Post

Just because you never heard of me, does not mean I do not work my butt off trying to help.

I never look at trending and have not in 2.5 years here. I work with little people and have no time for nonsense up above.

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Whoa Cowgirl! Your "small blog" not getting attention does not mean none of them are.

Maybe pharesim meant small blogs except yours! The world does not revolve around you and not sure Steem should either.

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No, he was talking about the general good health in ALL small blogs here, @netuoso. The discussion was not about me at all. We have talked further and this is what he believes - that the smaller blogs are doing better. I disagree since my main function here is writing minnow tips and I saw the loss immediately post-fork. Then we had a lull, and now they are dropping like flies agian. Some of the bigs tried manual curation for a few weeks but most of them have stopped now since it is not easy work.

We were trying to get to 10K minnows on one project this year and were at about 9800. Now we are at about 9200. Six hundred minnows leaving is significant.

My three niche blogs are having uneven results. If a post "hits" it gets nice rewards. For me the hits ar ecoming slightly more frequently than they were. But my standard payout is about 60% of what is was before the fork and this is true for all who do not bust through the reward curve.

The low payouts are the cause of so many who are either taking a break, or powering down for good. When it took them a year of "working STEEM" to get 400 sp this is not an rash decision.

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Instead of curation reward for successful post put this % more for small bloggers. The motivation is very important for new users. I agree 100% with you.

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Because we all know that there is Downvote trails and the people who want to give their SP for that know that. But those two are curation project and I am not sure if all the delegators know what the power is used for.

Downvote curation is even more important as we've seen what happens over two years when that doesn't exist, curation projects not using their downvotes are cowards and show how little they care about the greater good of Steem and mostly just about their own safety. Curation downvoting not only costs us time without anything in return for it but at the same time gets you retaliation and endless arguments by idiots wanting to live in the past and constantly receive higher ROI than honest curators.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply as I know there is no change in hell you'll understand what this is about and even if you do you won't admit to it.

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I was not present here for few years.
Could you explain to me what is difference between vote bots and downvote bots in retrospect of curation.
I would appreciate.
Is this good platform at this point. How to make right choice of witnesses to vote and support. It is confusing.
After reading all of this comments one would be get confused.
Merci

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@flysky stop pretending this is not you ahahahahha you really think we are morons xD

For those who wish to know more:
@flysky has his socket puppet accounts to extract value from Steem (even tho' he stopped when I exposed him). The accounts are @xboxguru @digitalboss and @hamletnow.

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Who?
My name is Hamlet

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What do you mean by WHO? You don't know flysky? :)

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##I value your opinion. You are sharp businessman.
But deep deep down you know that platform is off course.**
**Stop by discord anytime so we can see together how we can all work together.
We Win Together.
Downvote to zero @slowwalker post is not the only solution for platform and I know that you see it here now.

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"I had joined Steemit 3 years ago for the vision of no-censorship blog."

I was not aware that this small group planned this. Now all others know who nullified and destroyed
@slowwalker good blogging rewards and his invested time on quality content.
I hope @slowwalker will continue blogging and to be part of steemit with his original blogging legacy.
This is beyond investment.

"If we force someone to stop writing blogs for the reward with mass downvote,
it is not different from the strongest censorship, in my guess."

Well...

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Yes I have downvoted slowwalker as I felt his content was over rewarded, as I have done many times to many different individuals.. it’s how it’s supposed to work. I’ve also upvotes hundreds of unique accounts a week as well as volunteered countless hours curating users, like yourself, for no gain of my own..

Yeah you’re right, I’m a horrible person.

I’m not celebrating and have said repeatedly I didn’t agree with the blind and excessive downvotes... but who cares about facts if they don’t fit your narrative.

also pretty sure votes have nothing to do with freedom of speech, but since that’s like beating a dead horse here, I’ll just leave it be.

Thanks for tagging me.

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Hi @stef1

But those two are curation project and I am not sure if all the delegators know what the power is used for.

Very good point buddy.

I can only hope that @slowwalker will decide to stay around and will change his mind. It would be enormous waste for our community to lose him.

Yours, Piotr

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Woow, this group really zeroed his post. That was not nice.

I don't think anyone wants to stop you from writing. Your posts and pictures are really nice, and the insights into Buddhism and your culture are very interesting! I don't know anyone who disagrees with that.

It's only the vote trading that triggered the downvotes. The rewards on steem are split into content and curation rewards for a reason. Your stake gives you the option to earn with curation, while the other half is intended to help other creators grow. If you are really serious with stopping the reciprocal voting and starting to support smaller authors I will take care that the downvotes I can control stop, right now.

Voting randomly is clearly not optimal, so if you find the time it would be awesome if you spent some time to look around for what you would consider good content and support those creators. There is a lot of spam, plagiarism and other unpleasant stuff, which makes that really time consuming. That's why I created curangel and delegate most of my stake to it. You probably have mostly seen it as leading the downvote trail that hit you, but the original intention behind it was a lot more about the curation (hence the name). We have a group of about 20 people looking around all day to find quality content which deserves support, and 80% of the rewards go to the delegators. The other 20% are for the curators, which are all small accounts themselves who are here for the content. There's no share for me or the other admins - it's all about supporting the creators and curators of content which may help steem to grow its userbase again.
Delegators have the option to submit posts which received bought or traded votes for downvotes, because that needs to stop for steem to be able to grow outside of the circles of friends of investors.

Of course you can power down and do with your steem whatever you like. I just want to show you that there's alternatives. As delegators to curangel, we still receive about 8% APR, and don't have to worry about what we vote - maybe that's an option for you too.

Whatever you decide to do with your stake, and that of your other accounts, please keep posting! Don't give up on this platform just because the long-established practice of selling and trading votes is finally not accepted by everyone any more. If we all work together to help newcomers grab a foot, all our values will rise a lot more than what you could have earned with rewards in the past while the price kept dropping.

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vlemon answer to your lobby group

No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

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If you pretend to be a big whale at least act like it. Your street language that you use on steemit comments , I have no comment.
Vlemon gave good answer to your downvote and censorship lobby

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Do you and your brainless turtle spammer friend know what the mute function is for? If you don't like my language, click on it, and you won't see it any more. Problem solved.

Comment upvoted as payment for the service I provide in your education.

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The way I see , you are just a small whale who is still trying to get name up there with big established whales. It will take time and quality work. You are switching your rules in my opinion to get "bigger delegators" as you said in comment below.
@slowwalker was big whale and he is downpowering his steem power. His post is destroyed and nullified.
That is real shame.

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You generally don't know much, I'm aware, no need to tell me again and again.

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Small unestablished whale out.

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Thank you for response.
Vlemon gave answer to your lobby group
"No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?
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Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

If you do a little more research, you will see that those "15 people" are the ones Haejin/Ranchorelaxo constantly downvotes with both accounts at 100% regardless of the content. Most of those votes are to counter this childish behaviour.

I'm number 9 on that list. I think you can see why:
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This has been going on for more than 2 months now and it's the same for most of the people on that list. Before then I never got a single vote from curangel, and I have no idea who is running the project, so your assertion that we're "friends" isn't true.

I suggest everyone calms down and think before they type these rants

Peace.

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Why don't you link to it, so people can read my answer directly where the question was asked?

Let me help you with that:
https://steemit.com/dblog/@vlemon/re-pharesim-2019113t131150551z#@pharesim/q0echb

And I will upvote this comment. Dealing with idiots like you needs to be paid.

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Your mode of communication is very rude and you are not a good example of communication and professionalism.

You only give downvotes to those who disagree with your opinion and that is censorship. @slowwalker is a great blogger and an example to everyone and you did everything to destroy him, shame.

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I'm just tired of communicating nicely with professional dumbfuck spammers like your brainless turtle of a brother or your retardedness.

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You fucking microwhales give the megawhales a bad name. All 19 of them!

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You start small and you always stay small , actions determine success. Your downvote lobby is smaller and smaller. Now @slowwalker posts are destroyed by your lobby. Is this the plan to destroy small and megawhales like @slowwalker as whale by your abusive lobby group excessive downvoting

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Members like you and @pharesim give whales bad name and reputation in this Steemit community Now when you destroyed and nullified with your censorship @slowwalker post . This is shame.
I am surprised that anyone wold like to vote that many votes for your @joshman 10 picture posts . There are many many better posts here and they only get .10 votes etc
Your Whale @pharesim Mostly votes over and over for same people as Vlemon gave answer to your lobby in his comment here

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It's pretty cool that you white knight for the people that paid you steem to do so. You're literally dripping with credibility.

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Thank you for kind words. @slowwalker is example of good bloggers, your 10 picture post get more rewards than some other good bloggers. What is next you will try to look in my Citi bank wallet next . You give bad reputation to steemit community with your censorship lobby

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That's her money I owed her and she wanted me to pay her to Steem. The point here is to talk about principles that you obviously don't or don't want to see.

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I was pleasantly surprised by changes made to steem once i got back after a while. The truth is there will always be two sides of interest but we as community nees to find a sweet spot. I as a content creator stopped creating content not for the rewards being too small, but for disproportion of rewards on bad content and content you could clearly see people put their hart, time and talent in. I allways liked content that @slowwalker posted and never gave it a second thought about his voting circle since i would receive a meaningfull upvote from him now and then.

As for the content discovery it is still quite hard and time consuming to find quality content since trending is more of a randon thing, search by topic or keywords still does not work you can search tags... Let's say i wanted to find skin retouching tutorials... bad luck. With the introduction of tribes i believe the majority started using tribe tags for obvious reasons.

I believe we will not see efficient curation until we have a proper content discovery mechanics.

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Please keep posting and stay on Steem. I enjoy looking at your daily posts. There aren't many English blogs sharing great photos of Korea.

I don't think you should vote for random. You should vote for blogs and posts you like or follow voting trails of people you trust and respect. It is your right and opinion.

If you don't want to get downvoted, it is important to discuss details with the people downvoting you, since it is their right and opinion, too. I guess they will stop if you have an understanding together.

I don't think you should power down. Try changing your voting style to see if you are happy with the results. The price of Steem is too low right now.

I think if everyone has a discussion, the community and atmosphere will improve. When SMTs arrive we will all be ready.

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I agree with your opinion

Please continue your blogs @slowwalker, and even self-vote as you don't post that often. It's just the vote-trading to a large degree that many disagree with and it needs to go down. If we can get the average rewards even of the most popular people on Steem to some regular levels that look reasonable to outsiders Steem will still be one of the best platforms around compared to the peanuts people make on Medium and that other one I keep forgetting the name of where you can tip posts in different crypto.

Anyway, I love to hear that you will focus on curating smaller users, thank you for that! Distribution is important, there are coins like Stellar where they give away most of their supply and they still do well in marketcap. Steem is a different beast but we can only win if we stop focusing on our STEEM ROI but instead figure out how to increase the STEEM value.

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vlemon answer to your lobby group

No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

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Instead of just commenting garbage at least have the decency to post a link to my upvotes so others can see without taking your useless words for granted:

http://steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=acidyo&days=30

Yes, 11% of my votes go to curators of OCD, especially since dumbasses like you have been retaliating on them due to OCDB downvotes and they are now barely making any rewards without my vote considering they are over 15 curators sharing the post rewards.

But please go on manipulating the comment order in this post with your 100% upvotes and downvotes as if readers are as braindead as you are not to see through it.

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How much money the same people give you is exactly what you're supposedly fighting. How many different profiles you have, how many users are held in the same voting circle. Stop writing posts and have your lobby group support new users.
Now you are doing Power Down, surely it is a new tactic for you to be voted the same group of people as a successful blogger. As much money goes to you through various projects and votes, you honestly need to support the small users because all this is just your game.

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These are the rewards I'm getting in 1 week from posting at least once daily, do you think they are too high for someone that hasn't just been vote-trading garbage in the past 2 years or only focused on their own blogs on Steem? For what it's worth I haven't asked for any of those upvotes or made vote-trading plans with them like you seem to be doing. Now I kindly have to ask you to stop replying to me and spamming this thread up as I don't have another second to waste to your useless existence.

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So your an admitted circle jerker????

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I agree with vlemon explanation

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lol I just realized you're spamming that to everyone, I was thinking your english was just that broken that it was targeted at me, what the fuck are you doing?

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Are you now censoring against non English speaking
This steemit is becoming more unfriendly by the minute because of members like you.
English is my second language. I am from Asia.
Do I have permission to continue to post on steemit.
My English not good heree.

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There is no censorship on Steem, please get that through your thick skulls. Is that now a new thread you're all trying to pull cause I told dobartim that I can barely can understand him? Damn you must be running out of things to defend your awful activity with :(

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For a moment, I thought that was @joshman's voting pattern. Then, I realized that he's full of crap.

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It's a statistic done by vlemon, I want people to see the truth from the person who wrote it, that's why I'm posting his comment and it's not spam - you are bothered by those facts.

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Facts provided by vlemon are really showing the real picture for all to see.
Thank you @vlemon

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That is definitely spam and I couldn't give a shit what any of your circlejerking friends have to say about me, I sleep better than a baby at night considering my activity here on Steem while you're the one crying about downvotes, retaliating on minnows and shouting out censorship like a complete fucking moron. Now please fuck off, I asked you nicely once.

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These words tell you who you are and what you are as a human being. The truth will always win and everything will come into its place.

Keep those ugly words to yourself, because you will eat them soon. The truth always wins and people are not stupid.

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If you're people then some people sure fucking are. I don't usually use words like that to randoms but I know way too much about the kind of person you are, it shows even better considering your activity on steem than any words I could ever say. Now I'm going to mute you, call that censorship or whatever you do in your crazy world.

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Are you surprised? I hardly agree with you @acidyo but here you have my total support!

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As xpilar said in his comment. What is wrong if people have broken english like @slowwalker
You may wish good for steemit but your timing is off. Do you even read comment section related to @slowwalker english as our cool member from asia. He is using google translations, at least give him and other non english members,some respect for trying to use "broken" english so others can understand well their posts.
You try to be important here at least act like one.

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I don't try to do shit, I do things and some may like it and some won't and I can't give two more shits about what you or your brother have to say and it's not my fault I can't understand half the shit you try to say since you're saying so fucking much trying to defend your shitshow.

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Please just read comments related to broken english members like @slowwalker indicated in comments above. People are watching this.
Why are you using street level language here

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Because that's what your activity deserves.

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I read your comment , I think you are trying to make steemit better platform . There ate good smart bloggers around. Just open your horizons.

I feel the same way. They are downvoting me and Specifically mentioning the reason is voting for you and then you voting for me. I have no idea whether you like my posts but I really like yours. I will not vote you anymore which is a shame and cancerous to Steemit in my opinion. I don’t blame you if you want t power done em and then dump coins when the prices rises a little, at least you will have them liquid to do so. This place has be come to centralized and a few dictators now decide who is god and who is bad because they have the power of massive delegates. It’s a shame because I feel people like me and you along with many others help keep this place alive with good content, not some bullshit activfit post or battle scores from drug wars or Steem monsters.....real content that helps bring users. Don’t vote for me anymore either because the fanboys will downvote both of us no matter what we do. I deleted every person on my voting bot, quit voting myself once a day and stay still hit my posts with downvotes. It’s a small group of people not control this platform. I actually think youtube is less centralized than Steemit right now. Good luck, I have considered powering down myself.

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Good content?

hxxp://steemit.com/palnet/@broncnutz/now-this-is-a-costume-z2qxhxfq ~$19 ...

hxxp://steemit.com/threespeak/@broncnutz/zeadpfev ~$24 ...

hxxp://steemit.com/threespeak/@broncnutz/exhsibes ~$23 ...

hxxp://steemit.com/palnet/@broncnutz/hot-springs-and-lasagna-the-perfect-combination ~$24 ...


Perhaps your idea of "good content" differs from others. As I have to constantly remind people, despite have some amount of SP, you are NOT ENTITLED to rewards from the reward pool. The only time you are "entitled" to rewards are AFTER the 7 day voting period. AFTER the upvotes. AFTER the downvotes.


You also have a vile attitude and personality. You probably encourage people to dislike you and downvote you. That is also their right with their SP, is it not?

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Lol....you should talk Andrew....FBI already contacted you. Post your cease and desist order you got from other blockchain projects...I’ll vote that up fo sho.

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FBI? Lol are you fucking retarded? Stuart Duncan paid a local law firm to deliver a letter to me and, btw, they didn't even do it correctly. They signed the certified letter themselves and left it in the mailbox.

If you think the FBI got involved you are seriously as retarded as you are fat.

As proof, since you want to challenge me, the fun shall resume later tonight for VIT. Stuart has you to thank for it.

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Slowwalker...this is a shame. I have been following you since I first began here over 2 yeara ago. I am no judge of quality or politics....I just love posts about real life. I am sorry that you recieved such a negative response from a formerly supportive community. I respect what others do with their stake no matter what it is. I encourage you to not power down your stake. Instead of powering down would you consider delegating to other communities? I am sorry to bring this to your comments and it sounds like I am selling something. Many communities could benefit, including the community that my wife and I have founded here on Steem. It is called Innerblocks @innerblocks. It is focused on first hand experiential content, and people owning their experience and building themselves. We have a curation team of over 10 people to curate content around the world, and are developing a custom frontend to join with an SMT. There are more great communities besides ours, and I hope you would consider delegation over powering down. Be well

Slowwalker thank you for everything you did for Steemit.

Your post writes history and I want to predict the future.

In all things, there is interest, Steemit started out as a free social network and now it is promoting a conducting decentralization system where successful bloggers are only those who have the support of people who have Steem Power.

If I cannot vote for my post, if I cannot vote for the posts of the people I love, then it is no longer a decentralized system nor is it a social network. Because if you can't do that then your move to Powerdown Steem Power is right, because if you can't vote for the ones you love then there's no need to vote for the ones you don't know and don't like.

Solutions to lift Steem value from downvote is not good, viewership is falling, Steem value is falling, a number of investors are falling.

There may be other projects behind the downvote strategy that will promote their token or coin, and it is not in people's interest to remedy this situation.

Voting for others and strangers has its limit until a new Steem token platform is set up, then it is possible for us to expand with new users.

With your name, a radical change begins, from now on nothing is the same again and these situations will change for the better or worse very soon.

Everything can be solved with the software, how much to vote for yourself, for the same people once a week etc, but it is not a solution for the guys who make this situation.

When you vote for the ones you love, you get a minus, because those people give you back love. When some people do it then it's a problem, but when the judges do it then they vote for a quality that we don't really recognize.

This is such a shame that the only thing they can do is threaten to take down your posts, that you cannot write because you will be at 0, if the right to free speech is abolished then there is no longer any democracy.

There are much better solutions and this is the right time to make a meeting of all the whales and orcs as the biggest investors, to come up with creative solutions that all users can have an interest in.

When new users come in and look at blogs that have been destroyed, it seems so depressing that they have no desire to write, they have no desire to invest.
When people see the best bloggers who have been destroyed, downloading their Steem Power, then the sense of further development is lost.

I see that in many people there is envy, jealousy, revenge, hatred and that these emotions do not affect the good mood of the user.

All this together does not look good at all, only if the people are honest and if a meeting is made where creative solutions will be made, only then will we have the chance to stand up together.

We win together

One more whale is pulling out investments from steemit. Bravo downvote lobby.
Steemit is bottoming on alexa ranking, more people like this are being discouraged. More people are reading this and specially our members from Asia.
If they confirm this as censorship on bloggers freedom I will think on what side of steemit history you want to be.
This trailing downvotes together against one account like @slowwalker account in my opinion is massive abuse and spamming to his account. His account was attacked for weeks and months as bullying abuse of downvote.
I hope @slowwalker continues to be part of steemit community if downvote censorship lobby allows .
If you want change change software option of votes and just direct all rewards to few whales in power behind curtains.
If you support his choice to continue or not feel free to write your opinion
I support you @slowwalker to continue blogging

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Maybe if you look at yourself first you would realize why people left Steem loooong before downvotes. Stop using your situation to create unreal panic.

You are getting downvoted for the reasons you really well know. Truth always find its way.

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@whack.science, you haven’t invested in steemit like others, @slowwalker, for example, invested his own funds and lost as he said in this post, and you remind me on a sewer rat creeping up the Parisian sewers, and still supporting the same ‘chronic envious lobby of azircon. That’s funny!

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Your words have no meaning, literally.

I am here talking to your friend flysky and you come with the comment about slowwalker. da fuq xD

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You abuse slowwalker and rest of good bloggers in steemit who comment here, about slowwalker, and all you talk about is YOURSELF and YOUR PERSONAL INTEREST! You only vote for people who vote for you. Are you supporting azircon and his negativity in steemit? This is not tweeter, this is steemit!

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yes slowwalker is SOOOOOO abused by me now xD yeah, since I'm talking about myself only, I will stop and soon will write a post about you mmmm as you wish :)

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Trailing downvote lobby nullifies @slowwalker and you taking credit and you are proud that another whale post is destroyed?? I have no words. truth is that steemit lost one big investor today who is downvoting due massive downvote abuse and trail bullying against his posts.
Solutions are beyond downvotes.
Lets work on them together as steemit community and as real non censorship decentralized platform.
Steem on
I am giving respect and support to @slowwalker free decision to continue blogging

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As I said before, look at the mirror first.

I didn't say I am taking credit. I never downvoted slowwalker. Stop twisting my words just to change the topic.

It will not hide that you are spammer

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This blog is about @slowwalker
Dont spam his post with your personal agenda
Against him. Write to him directly if you have something to say. Time to grow up here.
One more big whale is downvoting his steem power .
And you are proud that his post is nullified destroyed because of downvoting lobby abuse.
We are here to express support or not to his
Opinion and decision.
I support @slowwalker to continue blogging

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This is a reply on your comment. I thought you understand this...

Are you even reading my replies or you are just attacking without arguments hoping that we are all kids and stupid and that we will believe what you say????

Now I understand why you are tagged as a spammer here.

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I hope you will at least respect @slowwalker posts if you have no respect for free decentralized platform

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You are like a broken record. Enjoy your own world.

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Downvoting; because you are a registered spammer @flysky.

You know what; on second thought; I will wait 24 hours to let people see your incoherent comment and then I will downvote your comment :)

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Did you even read this post.

Trailing downvote lobby nullifies @slowwalker and you taking credit and you are proud that another whale post is destroyed??
I support @slowwalker decision to continue blogging

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azircon, you are so envious and destructive to steemit community, because of people like you, steemit will never grow! You are a hindrance to steemit’s success! You should be BLOCKLISTED coz of your downvotes to GOOD BLOGGERS, and bringing with you your trails of spineless friends who cannot decipher your bad motive to steemit.

@slowwalker. This is really good to hear that you are considering new ways. You are trying to break from your circle that you created over multiple years. Admission is hard; rest is easy.

I enjoyed your writing over the years but never liked the vote trading. So even though I liked your content, I nominated you for downvoting. I am glad I don’t have to do that any more. Hopefully.

I have substantial stake in steem now. And I plan on increasing my stake substantially if people in the platform are creative and understand decentralized governance. Because without governance we have no hope. If people like you change your ways, vote for small users, follow a curation trail, not only you will help the steem blockchain but will earn a good 7-8% passive income for your stake. If anyone wants more that’s greed.

Now if some of your followers like @dobartim @broncnutz @oldstone (which is you) @vlemon @kingscrown etc follow your footsteps; we will move collectively in the right direction. I can easily bring in more investment (real ones; not the puny things which we call stakes here) which will help with creativity and innovation.

Let’s hope 2020 will be good to us!! Cheers!!

Apologies for upvote but this @flysky is a pest ;)

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I hope you take time and read @slowwalker question.

Trailing downvote lobby nullifies @slowwalker posts and you taking credit and you are proud that another whale post is destroyed??

Does steemit community allows him to continue blogging?
I do.
Do you?

Had to vote for this since this member silenced it by massive downvote again.

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Is it simply bad because a "whale post is destroyed" or "just a post"? Are you considering content of a whale more important versus content of someone that is writing an in-depth post by heart investing e.g. 3 hours and to land at 30 cents - someone that might be new here and not a whale? Someone that might add much more quality but simply has not the connections to whales?

so is it more important to protect people that are whales vs onboarding new talents that create absolutely fantastic content? Tell me!

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Do posts from whack.science like this has a value of $ 10 each? Many of these posts are supported instead of quality posts from new users and there is a psychological inconsistency.

We all want Steem to grow, the number of users to increase, but when downvotes are used by a group of people who vote for the same people or the same people vote for them, then the number of users cannot increase.
So the whole support system is unrealistic, the point is to create a new model and rules that will be a combination of business and social network.

Instead of increasing website traffic now, traffic is dropping. New users see empty posts, see that many quality posts have no reward, and then quit writing.

Steem production should be stopped instead of downvote. It is better to introduce a rule as a software solution that you can vote once a day for yourself or 10% in total, that you can give the same people 100% once a week, etc.

I wrote a lot of posts about it but I got downvotes, everyone repeats only downvotes as an ideal solution and we all sink with it. He gets some downvotes and then he get an offer to give them Steem Power, so that's a really appropriate proposal.

When small users are so protected when they are so important, why no one ever asks them what they suggest is good for all of us. We need to be consistent with our words, leaders always show with their personal example and I do not see honest leadership or real and good solutions in the team that presents itself for the main characters.

Ugly words and attacks will not do any good to anyone, so only we can together make this place an oasis for all users, bloggers, investors.

It is important for us to understand that no one wants to lose money, everyone wants it to grow, but it is not fair that the main players look for excuses by convincing others that someone is bad and the same people are doing much worse things.

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xD maybe if you clicked and saw what's on those posts maybe you would know do they deserve that much :D But, that's too much for you, I get it. Your funny attacks are nothing but funny ;)

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Thank you for mentioning me my dear, what voting pattern do I have with slowwalker?
I am thinking of leaving anyway, this has been ridiculous, I could t upvote people publishing once of day of which I liked their content.
Do I earn a lot of rewards ? Nope but still you would like to target me.
All the best dear KGB.

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This is a shame what they do

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Your pattern is a case for its own. Over 75% of your voting goes towards 6 people, including yourself. You're not doing anything to support the bigger community, so feel free to leave, you won't be missed.

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No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

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Now it makes sense.
Vlemon i agree with you.
I would be ashamed to be part this kind of witness. They only support each other to gain rewards mainly for their circle.
@slowwalker was in their way. Look now where his posts are. They are getting destroyed and nullified by same downvote and censorship lobby.

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My upvotes are automated to counter retaliation downvotes, and if those aren't enough I follow curangel (where the major part of my stake is delegated to - it would be everything if I wouldn't need to counter those). So it's up to those retaliating who I vote for. Its also not adding anything to the rewards of these posts.

You can like jrcornel posts without giving him more rewards than 10 other people combined.
I personally consider one self vote a day, 10%, as acceptable. If you change your voting pattern as significantly as you say, i will take care that you won't get any more curangel downvotes. 25-30% for yourself and your friends is the line I draw when figuring if I deny a downvote or not.

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@azircon YOU NOMINATED SLOWWALKER for DOWN VOTING??? AND YOU’RE PROUD IF IT??? and now he is powering down? THEN IT PROVES THAT YOU ARE ‘THE KING AND THE BIGGEST LOOOSSSEEERRR on STEEMIT! POOR GUY! A Picture of a ‘CHRONIC ENVIOUS PERSONALITY!’

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I am from Asia too. Are you destroying my posts as well. how can you be proud to destroy @slowwalker posts. That is not right.This is censorship supported by you @azircon
Beware of this member @azircon he might be working for another crypto platform . this should be verified by @steemit owners . He destroyed my posts. He follows big downvote lobby group and destroys best bloggers in steemit because of his non creative and jealously towards good bloggers. He doesn’t even have posts he just follows around and destroy creative bloggers.

You can see link below https://steemit.com/azircon/@aidasfg7/ban-people-who-abuse-down-vote-they-don-t-support-steemit

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This is so funny, you put yourself in the role of the Gods. You ruin the whole Steem because you are the first to vote for the same people, there is no democracy here.

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If you dont like @slowwalker post just mute it, dont censor it with your downvote abusive lobby.
Option mute is available.

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Do you work for this platform ?
Why to censor this good blogger @slowwalker and zeroed his posts. It doesn't make sense.
What happened here in last two years. Is this steemit we all joined long long time ago.

It's a shame this had to come to this. I hope those flaggers are happy to lose a whale investor like yourself, I suppose you'll be selling your STEEM, let's see how happy they'll be when the price goes down because of it. Last thing we need is whales quitting.

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It's a marginal consequence to the overall effect: the price goes down but someone is buying that Steem either way. This "investor" still refers to Steem as Steemit, talk about disregard for the basics, plus they think they are censored.. on here.

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Lol. You were fast to call out flaggers but arent so quick to point out how nonsensical and dumb this post is.

He doesnt care about money yet minds a few a flags he gets because he trades votes.
He says he wants to continue posting as if someone is stopping him from doing so.

Instead of just stopping circle jerking he does a hissy fit that makes no sense.

But the flaggers suck thought, right?
Lol

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The same lobby group do the same and worst things with votes. The same people vote for.the same people, this is totaly against the truth and logic.

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If they vote for the same people then they are just as bad as you guys. It doesnt make you right though.

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When you invite your child to be a part of Steemit, your wife, brother and family to invest money, then it is normal to support them. There is no logic in voting random for new users unless there are such rules that whales do not post, that voting is restricted - that you can vote the same person once a week, etc.

The very logic of the social network is disturbed because this is a combination of business and social network. But when someone propagates something new and does not do it themselves, or says that it is the only good option to give downvote then it is not good for any user.

We need to find the right and better solutions, everything else is a struggle for power and this is what is discussed here in the post.

There is no censorship, and you are not "prohibited from writing" whatsoever.

You are also not guaranteed rewards. You may get rewards if a consensus of stakeholder voters think your content is worth rewarding. You may get less or no rewards if they don't.

Either way you are welcome to continue posting.

Is this possibly a reason steem will not succeed? People with high SP can just downvote whoever they choose.

You know I used to vote your content but haven't recently due to #newsteem forming and all the changes. I have also stuck my neck out for you on a couple of occasions, though I am on the side of #newsteem.

Are there 2 sides? #old vs #new? I don't want it to be like that but many of the #old guys are resisting any kind of change.

I notice your last 2 posts have almost been zeroed. I personally think that is OTT but the fact that it made you write this is very welcome to me. I feel it was to spring you into action and it's worked.

It's all about perception and what everyone else thinks you are doing, so I can give you some ideas on how to get everyone off you back if you want to listen.

I know your thinking... 'what the fuck do they want me to do'

Don't quit. Your dedication to temples is quite unique and your as mad about them as I am on Urbex.

...We need content like yours...

Try joining the #curie trail at a 2% fixed weight. if it gets to be to much of a drain then toggle it off.

Your CSI is bad but no worse than many others. Mine was until a few weeks back at 18 or so.

Mine is looking a lot healthier now, you can be sure that your vote is going to underpaid authors who are trying and yours will look like mine soon, approaching 50.

I get it that you don't want to find these guys. I look sometimes for them, but i do appreciate that you vote the resteems of others. You don't need to go searching.., most of us don't have the time.., but the curation groups can do it for you.

@curie doesn't upvote any old shit, and while I submit things to them.., that doesn't mean they get a vote.

This is now going to be a talking point of mine with @anomadsoul in a few days. We will both be in Bangkok. It's the 1/1 voting that is getting up people's noses, but there's some of that in most of us.

The other thing is while your content is unique, try and flesh it out a little more. Some more pictures, and more dialogue.

It feels strange me who's relatively new here compared to the 2016 crowd advising a whale on how to write.

I appreciate that English is also not your first language. You do OK and write better in that language than my non-existent Korean.

Don't stop writing @slowwalker. If you notice, the people and groups that have been attacking you have voted this post. That's because you have done the right thing and written this post.

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This is my comment, the main points are totally different.

Slowwalker thank you for everything you did for Steemit.

Your post writes history and I want to predict the future.

In all things, there is interest, Steemit started out as a free social network and now it is promoting a conducting decentralization system where successful bloggers are only those who have the support of people who have Steem Power.

If I cannot vote for my post, if I cannot vote for the posts of the people I love, then it is no longer a decentralized system nor is it a social network. Because if you can't do that then your move to Powerdown Steem Power is right, because if you can't vote for the ones you love then there's no need to vote for the ones you don't know and don't like.

Solutions to lift Steem value from downvote is not good, viewership is falling, Steem value is falling, a number of investors are falling.

There may be other projects behind the downvote strategy that will promote their token or coin, and it is not in people's interest to remedy this situation.

Voting for others and strangers has its limit until a new Steem token platform is set up, then it is possible for us to expand with new users.

With your name, a radical change begins, from now on nothing is the same again and these situations will change for the better or worse very soon.

Everything can be solved with the software, how much to vote for yourself, for the same people once a week etc, but it is not a solution for the guys who make this situation.

When you vote for the ones you love, you get a minus, because those people give you back love. When some people do it then it's a problem, but when the judges do it then they vote for a quality that we don't really recognize.

This is such a shame that the only thing they can do is threaten to take down your posts, that you cannot write because you will be at 0, if the right to free speech is abolished then there is no longer any democracy.

There are much better solutions and this is the right time to make a meeting of all the whales and orcs as the biggest investors, to come up with creative solutions that all users can have an interest in.

When new users come in and look at blogs that have been destroyed, it seems so depressing that they have no desire to write, they have no desire to invest.
When people see the best bloggers who have been destroyed, downloading their Steem Power, then the sense of further development is lost.

I see that in many people there is envy, jealousy, revenge, hatred and that these emotions do not affect the good mood of the user.

All this together does not look good at all, only if the people are honest and if a meeting is made where creative solutions will be made, only then will we have the chance to stand up together.

We win together

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I think we are all in agreement that we want to attract new people on the platform and keep them there?

If the new guys come (and some do), then get nothing for their work (the ones that give out some decent content), then they leave and spread the word that Steemit sucks, dont bother, a load of crap.. etc..

Bad new spreads like wildfire, and the outside worlds perspective of 'here' is currently abysmal.

Things need to change. It's been like this for years. Can you not give the new ways a chance? The old ways did not work.

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Look at the facts.

  1. The minus team gives votes to the same people who are the best bloggers in New Steem.

  2. There is no successful blogger who is not supported by the same group of people.

  3. Now you must not vote for yourself, for the ones you love (the people you invited to invest the money as a brother, child, woman) because you need to vote for new users.

  4. The idea of ​​helping new users is a utopia because people connect naturally when you break that social aspect, it's totally absurd to write posts at all.

  5. Steem support is finite, instead of giving downvotes the final output number should be made and inflation prevented.

  6. Someone who has not invested a single cent is now acting as a judge, in which business model it is normal for investors to be disrespectful. These same users get rewards for posting one picture of a game, or 3 pictures of a mountain from the same lobby group that does justice.

  7. Then whales don't need to tap posts and vote for themselves and their loyal servants, everyone should vote randomly for new users, and if that's the point then there's no need to write at all.

  8. This is a new mistake that will cost us a lot more, why no one calls all the whales and orcs into the conversation, but rather something is done without question - normally when someone has the plan and interest to take down some whales and be the absolute ruler of the New Steem dictatorship.

  9. The idea of ​​supporting new users is a good one, but it is essentially utopian for a social networking site like Steemit, especially in this downstream way, and the same judges vote for their people - there is no realization.

I see that you are honest and want to help, I want to do the same, but no one understands me, they just insult me ​​and give me minuses. It's a shame what they do and it will ruin Steemit and Steem.

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You have to see that there is nowhere else quite like this place. Giving tends to better yourself. I'm not going to judge you as you can judge yourself.

'are you giving or are you just taking?'

Now you must not vote for yourself, for the ones you love (the people you invited to invest the money as a brother, child, woman) because you need to vote for new users.

It's all about perception as I said before. If you joined the @curie trail even at a 1-2% fixed vote it would make all the difference to the new authors will not making a dent on what you get.

If @bingbabe (my wife) posted, I would vote all her posts 100%, I see no issue with doing the same for @tatjanastan. It's what you do for those outside the circle that counts.

We want new blood, you don't have to contribute ALL your VP to new guys, just a little. Try it.. and see what happens.

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I do that, but I have more and more downvote from the same users.

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The minus team gives votes to the same people who are the best bloggers in New Steem.

I disagree on that. #newsteem has seen fantastic photobloggers who didn't get shit under #oldsteem get real rewards commensurate to the very high value they bring to the chain. @paulmp is one of them. He has posted images to Steem that have been good enough for the National-fucking-Geographic! Thanks to #newsteem, his rewards jumped form a few dollars per post to tens of dollars per post.

For example,slowwalker's posts are fine but mediocre. They have never been quite worth as much as they have been rewarded at. In addition to the mediocre, Steem has seen a lot of really crappy content rewarded to high heavens. In the past three years, Proof-of-Brain has utterly failed on Steem. #newsteem is our best hope of making it work. The price of STEEM is so low now that any whales and orcas should feel most concerned about the price rather than accumulating any more tokens.

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No votes are going to broncnutz and cryptopassion anymore so you can cross this out. I like jrcornel posts so yes I upvote. Then you have my self votes which I think is still okay isn’t it ?
So you have 25% left on 3 people and the rest on other people. 75% of my upvotes away not through autovotes (taking away my own posts) is still not enough?

75% of your upvotes go to 15 people ! What about your split ? And you get Steem from being a witness so you don’t need to upvote yourself.

Do you think it is fair to give 75% of your upvotes and witness rewards to 15 people most of which are your friends or projects such as @curangel ?

See answer from vlemon - This is the truth!!!!

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I’m not a witness and @curangel is not a project of mine. You seem to mistake me for @pharesim.

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But this is the picture of new steem -pharesim and the same group of people make new steem.

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I have not tended to support @slowwalker as he seemed to do okay with support from others. It does seem certain people attract votes at least in part based on previous performance from people looking to do well from curation. Anyone who can make $50+ from a post is doing really well as most will make far less than that from a week of daily posts. It is interesting to see several people who profited from this model now complaining that they are getting downvoted and some are saying they will leave. Well this is Steem working as it was intended to (the crab bucket). Of course it can go too far in that direction, but this is a (fairly small) set of humans and a few people can have a big influence.

I think that the big accounts should be thinking about what is good for Steem in general. What content will bring in new users? A trending page full of crypto posts may not be it. Now that the 'bots' are less of a factor it is up to the community to make things happen. A lot of responsibility lies with those guiding the curation projects.

Of course we have troublemakers like haejin who is having a strop after losing his easy income, but others are powering up and doing good.

I would hope that this will be a hot topic at Steemfest.

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I would hope that this will be a hot topic at Steemfest.

This post could not have come at a better time. How many #oldsteem people will be in Bangkok?

I can bet it will be zero. We could have all of this out and something good could be spit out instead of all this bickering.

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I think that the big accounts should be thinking about what is good for Steem in general.

Why would the majority of them do that? It's easier to do "proof of click" mining than doing all that work. That's always "someone else's job".

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Well their current strategy is not exactly sending Steem 'to the moon'. These are supposedly adults who can think ahead to what is good for them and some may actually give a shit about others. They are all people and greed is not the only driving force.

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Short term profit is more real than long term "maybe" profit.

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Just hope it doesn't crash within 13 weeks ;)

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Meh, my CSI is much lower.

That's the price of actually reading.

Dear Slowwalker, first of all I would like to thank you for supporting me and the steemians who is supporting steemit continually just to keep blogging and commenting! We want to support steemit always, money or no money, we will enjoy the posting, sharing to steemians whatever we can. You are a ‘Great Supporter to Steemit’, you have a big heart for the cause and for the follower and supporters of steemit. Please don’t mind this people who come to steemit who are ‘greedy’, and want only to enrich themselves! They want to destroy steemit, who knows maybe they are supporting another coin and wants to enrich themselves here in steemit and discourage steemians from supporting steemit, and I call the group headed by ‘azircon, nemo435 (his other name), ‘Chronic Envious Personalities’, they couldnt be creative enough, that’s why they want to slowdown the ‘Best Steemian like yourself’ and the rest of the Creative Bloggers in Steemit! I will always be there to enjoy your blogs which is educational to all! I will always support creative bloggers and steemit! All the best Slowwalker!

Hi @slowwalker

I started to follow you because you published an article about your mother and her paintings, this article is very heartwarming and I love it.This should have happened two or three years ago, I started following your post after that. And I especially enjoyed and learned a lot from your series on Buddhism.

I have read almost every article you have written, but since English is not my native language, it is difficult for me to make some comments. But I still think we're good friends, at least I think we are.

I set up automatic upvote to your posts, but I never expected a return, nor did I care about the gain or loss, just because I like it. Although sometimes I'm happy when you upvoted on my posts.

I hope you to stay here, continue to produce excellent work just like before. We can't please everyone, It doesn't matter.

Maybe one day I will be under pressure not to automatically upvote your post, but I hope we will always be friends.

When I can't vote for whom I like, When I can't vote for myself, when bloggers say "don't vote for me, so I don't get flags" that means there is no democracy but dictatorship which is against law. Why some bloggers like @whack.science vote for himself and don't flag Him? If selfvoting is prohibited than "flag him" also. If You flag him for selfvoting than I will believe You are righteous but if You don't than this is called VIOLENCE. Someone can get health problems because of Your constant pressure...

This what is happening on Steemit is called violence, threatening & is crime.

When You force somebody to do something what You want Him/Her to do ( and He/Her is not doing anything contrary to Steemit policy ) according to law is called violence & violence is against Human rights...

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I just checked. It is correct. This guy votes over and over for his own post. This is going on for long period of time. And every post.How so that he is not on downvote trail.
I guess downvote lobby is playing favours and destroying good honest bloggers like @slowwalker instead.
When I see downvote lobby downvoting this member I will believe in their mission.

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I definitely agree with you. If censorship downvote lobby is downvoting @slowwalker I think for this member they should apply the same rule coherently. Good point here.

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Because you STILL don't understand self voting is NOT prohibited. It is EXCESSIVE self voting and circle jerking that is what's wrong on this blockchain. Decentralize your voting, simple as that.

Keep on attacking me with your family and friend. Maybe one day you find some arguments.... When you do your research.

I benefited many times from your support. I know you are a good whale and person with integrity. Your blog is consistent and interesting. You should do whatever you deem right with your SP, not what others want. Thanks a million for your kindness, support, and encouragement.

P.S. Don’t stop blogging!

No one should tell you whom to vote.
Keep posting.

Hi there. I think it's great that steem allowed you to keep writing day after day for three years, congratulations on that one, not a lot of people can say that about themselves.

So, you will start powering down instead of staying powered up and voting for other people? After months and years of getting rewards (at what price point did you bought steem by the way?) you decide you no longer want to keep writing just because your rewards are going down?

You just said rewards are not important for you, but you decide to power down once you see your rewards go down? 🤔

Nobody is prohibiting you from writing on Steem...

Again, it's good to see that after a long time you have decided to vote on other people, that is really the new steem way! Sad that you are powering down but it's good news you are spreading your votes.

Let me know what exchange you'll be using to sell, so I can be there to buy it all.

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Dear @anomadsoul

you decide you no longer want to keep writing just because your rewards are going down?

I think you're mistaken here. It has more to do with feeling of being targeted.

It seem to me that most people who will face mass downvotes will feel hopeless and forced to power down.

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If you set it this way, anyone with $ 100 will be able to do it, when the Steem value is 0..0001 $

Great offer, since you're so fair and honest then buy my Steem. Just pay me the price I invested, which is an average of $ 1.12.

That is a shame. This is the third whale I know that is leaving Steem this week.
I think the harrassment worked out.
Steemit is looking more and more like Golos imho. All the best slowwalker.

I really don’t understand why anyone would use massive downvote power to nullify post from @slowwalker
@slowwalker I really support you to continue blogging. Don”t be discouraged by downvotes. We are all learning here and we should all support one another for steemit to be real decentralized platform.
I read many many positive comments here. I am proud to be part of steemit.

I have no idea why anyone would downvote you.
When you invested everyone voted around freely for years.
I will not vote because downvoting lobby is putting censorshio on my choice whome I vote.
I am becoming afraid to vote for you because now they will downvote my post
I will resteem your post at least they didn't censored that option.
Resteem your post.

To @slowwalker and anyone else trying to spread big votes down below.

These are two posts past payout that give you some ideas of how to help little fish without spending all day on the chore. Curation is not easy, no matter how you do it.

Whale Tip! How to Curate Contests on STEEM and Help Small Bloggers Grow

Whale Tip! Vote for Pre-Curated STEEM Posts

Unfortunately, on Steem, a post is more appreciated and gets more attention if it gets higher rewards/upvotes and there is a valid reason behind this thinking, most of the people have been mainly attracted towards Steem to get rich or to get handsome pay outs or if we think it not at the extreme but moderately then to earn an average income and it is still possible but that's another discussion.

My point is, other than above mentioned concept, Steem is a place where anyone can write whatever he/she wants within, IMO, ethical limitations and it could be a master piece even if it doesn't get higher rewards.

I read your post, either you are biggest winner or biggest loser on steemit. You can't be both. History of steemit will tell us . So far you have good blogging skills.
But if you say @pharesim and lobby does censorship of your posts.!
Than why downpowering sp. You should stay and help steemit community grow out of this.
Steemit is excellent platform.
I support your blogging.

I love your posts, having been to Korea and actually some of those spots you've picture I can say you do wonders for the silent lurker who is a fan of the art. Your posts will be useful for years to come and I have no idea why anyone is downvoting you, you clearly invested more than most in Steem. Keep doing what you do.

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Hello, I just joined today, what are you talking about ? Is upvote to someone here that valuable?

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Yes, if You are new and don't write what they say to You, and dont upvote whom they say You to upvote, You will be flagged/downvoted...

Lol
You voted one of my post and I got downvoted straight to 0. Please stop 🛑 !
And this is the only post you upvoted for the past month.

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Shame, this is a totally wrong strategy and way of promotion!!!

This is lovely. Checked out some of your posts and they were pretty awesome. Would love to see many more of you. Resteeming right away.

It's good to hear you are going to keep posting I really enjoy checking out what you post it would be so sad to see you leave. I hope you enjoy your day 👍🏾

You can always earn $TTU crypto coins sharing your Photography on TATATU.... no investment required. I already earned 5,000 TTU ($1,300 USD) This week sharing my photography from Canada. You also earn TTU watching movies... https://27fk.app.link/jt9LJ6KN30

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Hello my friend @slowwalker consider your decision before doing something wrong.. I would like to offer one option to you instead of power down. Delegate your Steem Power to @project.hope this is an incredible community and the founder of this project is @crypto.piotr he can explain more about this and actually you can take your trip traveling in the world while your money is moving every single day in this project.

Consider to visit https://steemit.com/steemleo/@project.hope/increase-by-70-your-weeekly-payout-by-delegating-your-sp-to-project-hope

And make your smart decision my friend.

The best for you..!!

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Thank you @edgarare1 for your kind words, however I don't think that @slowwalker is in right state of mind to consider supporting any project with his delegations.

It's just so awful what's happening around this user right now :(

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Hello my friend @flysky

Yeah, you right, it is. Take your time my friend to check th