HF21: Release Tagged!

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The Steemit blockchain team has officially released version 0.21.0 of Steem also known as Hardfork 21 which contains code for adding a Worker Proposal System to Steem (called the Steem Proposal System or Steem.DAO) and the Economic Improvement Proposal to Steem.

Exchanges

As this is a planned hardfork of the Steem blockchain, exchanges that are operating Steem exchange nodes should upgrade as soon as possible so that there is no interruption of services when the hardfork is expected to occur on the 27th of August, 2019. Note that this is contingent on supermajority adoption by the Steem witnesses of the suggested upgrade, as is always the case with hardforks.

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Curse words, name calling, two facts riddled with typos, one bullshit statement, and a threat about quitting.

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Claims that SMTs and Communities will solve all your problems including gout

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3000 word response that's impossible to respond to and @ned gets tagged for no reason.

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Token reply from a non-techie Steemian that will be ignored because I didn't use enough crypto jargon

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3000 word response that's impossible to respond to and @ned gets tagged for no reason.

Shorter math response although logically well riddled!!

«-ONBOARDING-»

And yeah, ¿Why not? let's tag @ned with no reason too. };)

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I love this whole thread but now I have to DDOS Steemit just to fit in.

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I'm just here for the gout cure guys.

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No, best treatment for gout is a topical application of kief mixed with olive oil!

Oh this is not the Weed.Cash feed? Sorry, got a little confused as to where I am... I think I will throw a little shade at this comment.

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You cannot sent token to yourself.

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Hi andrarchy the SHADE tokens are on the way.
Thanks for sharing SHADE
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Complaint from a spammer that @themarkymark unfairly put them on his blacklist and that he is the devil

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Hey, no fair using your typical response gif. Not meta enough!

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Sock puppet accounts erupt in a giant chorus claiming victimhood

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Random comment.

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unrelated sidenote

!dramatoken

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Feels like a hero.

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Such drama, you've earned a DRAMA!

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piles on with negativity and unabashedly requests support for his witness

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Here is your receipt for:

Random complaint for attention purposes and votes.

Have a nice day!

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Do we just play games in the Steemit Team post comment sections? Wish I got the memo:

series of numbers and letters I am definitely not supposed to share with anyone -- my brother, mom, best friend, neighbor, or a striking Finnish woman

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That was worth a vote.

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Senses everything going according to plan.

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shit noooooooooo!

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You have been rewarded with some SHIT! Take a trip to the bathroom to stake and manage your worthless tokens.

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This comment has changed my life.

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Lol, this comment thread made my day :D

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Is now known as The Day Maker

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Haha.. yeah! Mine too.

Let it be a countdown not only to a new hardfork, but to a new culture on Steem.

Curating whatever you perceive as the most valuable content and contributions to Steem will now certainly be more rewarding than before, so do it! We have this chance to incentivize and reward the behaviors and cultivate the environment that each of us have always wished that other social media(s) were, so just do it!

Honestly, I have no idea to what extent this fork will significantly improve the fundamental issues Steem has had over the past 2 years, but I do know that it is an opportunity for us to set a new standard for what Steem should be. This time without any excuse not to use our free downvotes to steer the ship in the right direction.

Let's go :)

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Are you telling me that if I power up my steem, I can flag for free? Even if only once, that could be fun.

But are there any new users coming? The recent stats don't look good

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I haven't seen a single significant effort considering how we will attract new users. Why they will come and what they will do here.

I am concerned (not mad or panicked) at that disconnect. Every stat I can think of to look at shows a shrinking user base and economy.

Anyone who has worked near a marketing team also knows there is usually a significant delay from planning and releasing a call to new users and results.

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I have been spamming every single @steemitblog post for months that they need to advertise the blockchain to the real world and I have yet to get a legit reply to extreme necessity...

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i feel like in the next strong bull market people will flood here but I agree there needs to be more onboardings

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But are there any new users coming?

Flag the old users first ;)

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I'll flag YOU @tarazkp!!!!!!! Let the flag wars begin everyone!!! 😈

Just kidding. Please lets keep it civil.

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More users are likely to come and stay if the site and platform looks more attractive. This can be achieved by ensuring a better correlation between quality content and valuable contributions and rewards. If we can cultivate the type of environment we all would like to see more of on the web, surely there'll be others out there who share that view?

In any case, all the work is still ahead of us as a community to turn around and understand that the platform is what we make it to be.

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Nice positive outlook.

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Dear @fredrikaa

I'm seriously wondering how will HF21 impact our behaviours on Steemit and steem blockchain.

Definetly users will have more reasons to hold on to their SP, so selling pressure should slow down.

Yours
Piotr

27th of August, 2019. Note that this is contingent on supermajority adoption by the Steem witnesses of the suggested upgrade, as is always the case with hardforks.

So this is just to tell us that after one month plus in the hands of the witnesses, that you are going to announce to all the businesses an implementation date that you have no real clues as to if it will happen or not, because the Supermajority has not spoken yet.

Instead of speculation, (on the witness acceptance), and a small attempt at coercion of the non-complying witnesses toward the super majority, it would have been much more useful to let us know where the witnesses stand on the issues, what their concerns are, and that this is why it is taking so long to determine if they are going to accept or deny the Hard Fork 21.

Contingent on supermajority--tells us, the users absolutely nothing. Announcing a date, basically giving the witnesses a Deadline smacks of coercion. I hope the witnesses, delay the HF21 well beyond your announced date. (There are several parts of HF21, that I think are bad), and that is why I hope they delay it, so they can properly do their due diligence and to not bow to pressures from any group, side, or organization.

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Witnessess and other developers are still doing lots of work on the TestNet to make sure everything will run smoothly. Having a deadline is very helpful to motivate specially those doing the testing. As far as is known there is more than enough for super majority among the top 20 witnesses. But if those witnesses decide there are errors they are finding in the testnet that need to be resolved prior to approving and upgrading to the new software then that would delay it ... yes. (as it should)

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Finally, a real word on how the testing is going. People, (well at least myself), just wanted to know that testing was indeed taking place, that things are running as planned.

The imposition of a deadline though should not be needed. I know at some point someone will have to stand up and say "O-kay, we have had this in test mode now for six weeks. What are the current issues we are having, where do we need to focus our testing? What has been tested to satisfactory conditions?"

While none of that may be know by the users, (me), at least you did let us know:

As far as is known there is more than enough for super majority among the top 20 witnesses.

For that you have my thanks.

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The last month was also a testing phase for us (as well as the witnesses and other developers). As a result, we can ensure a smoother hardfork as a few bugs were actually identified and solved.

Hard fork dates must be announced with enough time for businesses (especially exchanges) to be able to perform the upgrade. IF for some reason the majority of witnesses don't vote in this hardfork, it would not effect businesses that have upgraded - everything will keep on functioning as normal with the current hardfork version, even with the upgraded software.

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Understood, and thanks for the clarification on the purpose of the announcement.

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Testing is great and important. Have there been any parallel-feed tests this time to see how the code handles real account sizes, trafic, etc? But more importantly, are there any kill switches for the part of the HF that some people predict might reap havoc on the platform or even drive a mass exodus?

There are at least seven different ways how HF21 could backfire, and it would be nice knowing you guys have kill switches and contingency plans in place on what to act if any of these scenarios end up playing out.

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!dramatoken

Für ze Returd

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Witness votes and therefore the elected witnesses can always change. There is no way to know for sure whether a hardfork is approved except to wait for the date and see what happens.

That said, all of the existing top 20 witnesses are in favor of it, as far as I know.

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Thank you. I do understand that the top 20 witnesses can change at any time, even during a test period of a hard fork. HF21 has a lot of important items in it, it is nice to know that the testing is running smooth, that there have been few if any major problems with it.

After 6 weeks of it being released for testing, it is nice to see some actual update on the progress from you and and a few other witnesses. I realize a few people think I am as Baah thinks, however name calling is not what this is about, if "Drama" needs to be created in order to Learn that everything is going as planned then drama it will be in the eyes of some, and retarded questions in the eyes of others.

Thank you for the update, and it is good to hear that the current top 20 are not having any serious issues with any aspect of HF21.

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You've got DRAMA. You are going to be a Whale!

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I'm a big fan of the hardfork. I think the SPS will allow us to fund things that aren't priorities for Steemit, but that the community really wants.

I believe that the EIP is a good system, we've already implemented those components into PALnet and it's going well.

Pending testing and community feedback I'm planning adopting this voluntarily and would encourage other consensus witnesses to do the same.

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Can you summarize what you have seen over the course of using the EIP components on PALnet (or link somewhere if you have already done so). I think that would be useful information in evaluating this hardfork.

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I note that on PALnet there are no mined stakes that enable capture of rewards, unlike Steem. This is a pretty fundamental difference, and I expect that EIP will exaggerate that difference. It will be interesting to observe the results.

I have completely opposite expectations than do you, for reasons I have repeated ad nauseum, and will forego here.

In the event HF21 is catastrophic, I hope to hear from you regarding how market cap has declined, users continue to hemorrhage, and Steem price fallen further. Also, in such event, how do you think PALnet would be impacted?

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💪🏼🙌🏼💯

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Lets hope that you are right, but the question is if it works because you implemented parts of the EIP into PALnet or because there is a better token distribution ...

I really do not think this will be favorable to low stake holders. Remember my words.

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Think this HF will drive most red fish and minnows, and most of the smaller dolphins to move their stake to a scot tribe. There your smaller stake is still worth something at the moment. Oh, and if enough of us move to Scot tribes, SMTs will truly end up being too little too late, so Steemit Inc, quit working on SMT and start working on opening up the STEEM economy with important features that could bring in top content creators. Maybe start with a blockchain level solution for supportind add revenue sharing on STEEM. Now that's something that would improve the ecconomy.

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It will be what it will be... and we will see it soon!

!BEER 🍻 🤗😃

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y'all be drinking too much, you need something to chew on

!CHOPS 1

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How about some !COFFEEA to sober you up?

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Thanks for the !BEER 🍻 Old Dog... cheers!

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Hi kus-knee, this write-up was particularly meaty, fulfilling, wholesome, beefy and deserving of a CHOPS token. Don't Chomp on it all at once!
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coffeea Lucky you @kus-knee here is your COFFEEA, view all your tokens at steem-engine.com Vote for c0ff33a as Witness

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Hey @amico, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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Can I have a !BEER token please ?

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Here, have a !BEER

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Cheers to that ... thank you!

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Sorry, you don't have enough BEER in your account. You need 10 BEER in your virtual fridge to give some of your BEER to others. To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com

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MMMMMMM BEER.

What do you do when you come to a fork in the road?........ Drink Beer ;)

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Ahhahhahh... life is good!
With a cold !BEER 🍻 is even better, right?

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That is one of life's fundamental truths. (The law of BEER)

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🙄😜🤗

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I'm afraid you're right :(

Good job guys looking foward to it. :)

This one isn't a keeper. Tag and release? It's better off dead.

Frankenfish.jpg

It's going to be interesting to see how this is received and if the witnesses go with it. There is no perfect system, but we need change in some form. Reducing the influence of paid votes is a priority. We need more real curation.

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The only way to know if it's a good idea or not is for people to give it a wholehearted go and do their best with it. Maybe we should start an "undelegate to bidbots competition" to encourage people to start manually curating again :P

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Yes @steevc ...

"We need more real curation."

... agreed. Now, we'll all find out soon enough if that is what the HF21 changes produce ...

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I don’t know if it’s just me but I enjoy being a part of all the chaos and mayhem! Lol imagine using the site and everything just goes smoothly every time!

There would be so much less content on the site since half of it is either complaining about steemit, explaining how things work, or how things could work, is going to work, or low works lol

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Others have said that posts about Steem get the most attention. I try to make most of my posts about other things, but there is plenty to discuss about the platform. We need to get it into a state where more people want to use it.

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That's it.
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Hmmm.

"... the hardfork is expected to occur on the 27th of August, 2019."

Is this a typo? Or are we being informed of this 2 days later?

Hopefully it is clear to our all-important Witnesses ...

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Thanks for the laugh hahahaha.

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Sure @howo, happy to provide some comic relief in these challenging times ... 😉

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It is currently July. The hardfork date is 4 weeks away 🙂

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😯 Wow @justinw thanks! I better get my second cup of coffee down, before writing anything ... 😉

Worker Proposal System is a welcomed system!

Thanks to Steemit Team!

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I honestly do not know how I'd feel about the new hardfork, I still have trauma from the last one but I'm still here and Steem still entertains me. I am an optimistic person and at this point I see this as positive, for me it means Steemit Inc still cares about Steemit that they try. I hope they never stop trying and address every little thing that those whiners, complainers and all sorts of ingrates are crying about. Cheers!

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I wouldn't call people who try to improve STEEM by introducing new ideas and making suggestions "whiners". Sometimes criticism is more helpful for the progress of a project than just saying "great" and "wonderful" all the time.

Anyone have any updates on the community features for Steem? I might make a proposal for a coding project but it is dependent on knowing more about community features.

@steemitblog,
I think this is the hardfork which change the phase of where STEEM is going! Thank you for the information and hope if you could add a widget to top of steemit with the count down for the HF21!
$trdo

Cheers~

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Congratulations @theguruasia, You are successfuly trended the post that shared by @steemitblog!
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And now .... to SMTs, communities, and Beyond!

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Or to Steem-Engine tokens and tribes 😀

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But communities is much more than that... it's a set of technologies that will add lots of functionality. Moderation abilities and great hivemind integration. It can even be used to give solid tools to TRIBES. They aren't necessarily in competition.

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I assume that you are speaking from a deeper knowledge that just the announcements? Sorry, but I will believe this when the communities will be deployed to production and working as promised.

There are teams that are producing much more and in a shorter time and have a much better track record.

My personal opinion is that Steemit dev team's energy would be better spent on maintaining the basic layer code and leaving the upper stores to others.

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That's essentially what they're doing... they are working on is the basic layer code for how hivemind enables communities then the interfaces will build most of the actual user support for communities.

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Then this is a win-win situation. When done correctly.

OK, let's wait and see and hope for the best.

Thanks for your answers!

!BEER

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You need to own more BEER (6 BEER allows you to send 1 BEER per day)

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True true. 😁

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Let's play with the beer tribe, man!

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Any contingency plans yet? If not, STEEM has been fun while it lasted. And an other question: has the dust level threshold been fixed to fit the new reality? I think the biggest problem with HF21 isn't with any of the "features", it is with the way the sum of the features interacts with the dust level threshold. Basically after HF21 there is no sense left up voting comments on your posts unless you are a top-range dolphin or an orca. Single upvotes from anyone up to a small dolphin won't make dust level after HF21, and that is a huge social interaction killer.

There is a simple fix:

Move dust level from 0.02 to 0.005 or less!

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!BEER 🍻 🤗😀

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Lol @amico toasting already? Or we getting our pre-drinks on so we have a good buzz come HF release

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Too much beer brings headaches 🍻😀

What brings hard fork? Pain or pleasure? 🍴🎉🍸🍺😂😀

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Life is a game, man!
More !BEER 🍻 more fun? 😂

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Cool. The date doesn't suit me though :)

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Let me guess, the best date would be the date you earn your Orca batch on steemitboard ;-)

Think the date doesn't suite anyone who hasn't earned that badge yet.

To the moon 🌚!
I think this could increase tremendously the value of STEEM and bring more investors and interests to the platform.
Blog post on that topic incoming soon.
Let’s see 😉

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There is a reason STEEM is trading at 24 cents right now. The market isn't stupid.

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There is, but it takes time to adapt to new information, cryptomarkets are not efficient.
Not yet at least.

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It’s much better to attempt at improving the system now. Steem is still so small.

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In the exchange section it says:

Note that this is contingent on supermajority adoption by the Steem witnesses of the suggested upgrade, as is always the case with hardforks

Exchanges (assuming they are not also witnesses) should probably go ahead and upgrade to 0.21.0 regardless. If the hardfork is not approved then the upgraded code will continue to work with the existing consensus rules, and there should be no interruption of service either way.

The only way to know for sure if the hardfork will be approved would be to wait until the last minute and that isn't a good idea.

That said, some exchanges may explicitly want to disable their wallet during any hard fork just in case of problems. In that case it would be okay to wait and see.

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Yes, we are recommending that all exchanges upgrade at their earliest convenience and preferably much sooner than the HF date.

Random complaint for attention purposes and votes.

Can you clarify the "We are adding a one comment edit per block lockout to accounts."

Will this lockout apply to original post as well??

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Good question @silvertop. The answer is yes - to the blockchain, comments and posts are identical things. This is essentially saying that you can only edit a post or comment once every 3 seconds.

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Thank you for clarifying this @justinw, I post my @actifit everyday with my IOS and I always go back to Steemit to drop in my photos.

I was concerned that that I would be locked out if I wanted to add another tag or had a typo....👍

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Ok, let's see what happen.

Fingers crossed.

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Still shit :p

To infinity and beyond!

What is the "Curation Reverse Auction Window"? I'm still unsure about how curation rewards work on here.

You just want to vote before everyone else?

It will be a Tuesday.
It will be the 35th Tuesday of the year.
It will be in August.
It will be 2019.
It will be better.
It will be a witness day.
It will be a day to watch baseball.
It will be a day of radio if you are in Argentina.
It will be a day for steemit.
It will be a day for a change.

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It will be !BEER time ... and some !popcorn too :)

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Resteemed :-)

May the Steem ♨ Force with Hard Fork........

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Can't wait the latest upgrade and update.
Bert wosher to the Steem community

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Congratulations @steemitblog!
Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

  • Comments - Ranked 1 with 156 comments

@remind-me 27th of August, 2019

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Hey @pizzaboy77, I will notify you on August 27th 2019, 12:00:00 pm (UTC)
Later! ( read more... )

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Hi @pizzaboy77!
You asked me in this comment to create a reminder.
It seems the time has passed!

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!giphy fork

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// You can support giphy by using one of your witness votes on untersatz! //

@steemitblog

Como miembro activo de la comunidad hispana en Steemit, me alegra que se estén tomando medidas para el mejoramiento de esta plataforma, pero coincido con muchos, diciendo que este cambio no puede ni debe ser solo de imagen o de sistema, sino mas bien debe ser un cambio de cultura, de manera de pensar de quienes aquí vivimos y trabajamos diariamente por traer un buen contenido al mundo de las blockchain.
As an active member of the Hispanic community in Steemit, I am glad that measures are being taken to improve this platform, but I agree with many, saying that this change can not and should not be just image or system, but rather must be a change of culture, a way of thinking of those of us who live and work here daily to bring good content to the world of blockchain.

Awesome news yes yes date has been set can't wait for that awsome date thanks for this great update @Steemitblog

We have a clear date now, just prepare, whatever status you are in.
Any perceived improvements to the steem blockchain, can always be exciting, let get it on.

looks like things are really getting tougher for newbies to fit unti the steem community. This seems good to share.

A day to celebrate !Beer

I see from the notes that a full replay will be required. How many days will that take for people? Is it different with MIRA (@themarkymark )? I assume witnesses and exchanges need to add that extra time in? For instance if it takes 5 days for a full replay, do they have to start it before August 22nd?

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Top witnesses and exchanges are being recommended to continue to use the non-MIRA version for now which has the same replay performance as before (several hours if using a high end CPU with enough memory).

Lower-ranked witnesses may prefer to take the hit on replay time in order to get the better low-memory performance of MIRA and lower deployment costs. Likewise for API full nodes.

The developers plan to circle back and make additional improvements to MIRA making it more suitable for all uses, but not until after the SMT release.

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