This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List. (HIVE 에어드랍 제외 대상 목록이라고 합니다.)

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  • This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List.

  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.


steemit accounts


"ben",
"bitdev100",
"geos",
"goku1",
"hkdev404",
"imadev",
"joe767676",
"misterdelegation",
"steem",
"steemit",
"steemit2",
"steemitadmin",
"timothy2020",
"steemitblog",

tron puppets


"goodguy24",
"aheadofslow",
"night11pm",
"hunger365",
"waitforyou1",
"cloudysun",
"jumphigh",
"coronashallgo",
"paintingclub",
"bostonawesome",
"toke2049",
"flyingfly1",
"agirl10000",
"eastooowest",
"car2001",
"nicetry001",
"high46",
"respect888",

Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp


"poloniex",
"cjsdns",
"sigizzang",
"sct.wallet",
"virus707",
"pacemaker",
"sct.voter",
"sct.bank",
"goku1",
"joe767676",
"stablewon",
"imadev",
"stevoperon",
"friendlystranger",
"richwings",
"sj-jeong",
"jaydih",
"wisdomandjustice",
"omit",
"geos",
"we-together",
"photoholic",
"steemhunt",
"talkative-bk",
"rhodium",
"dobartim",
"razer7",
"dodoim",
"flysky",
"remain",
"coreabeforekorea",
"sct.krwp",
"goodnewworld",
"double-u",
"bukio",
"cyberrn",
"sonki999",
"spinbunny",
"steemex",
"francium",
"sjgod4018",
"lucky2015",
"jayplayco",
"fur2002ks",
"cancerdoctor",
"walktoheaven",
"coininstant",
"brent1042",
"bencana0523",
"smallpusher",
"glory7",
"ppomppu",
"vingroup",
"freegon",
"happybelly",
"stimp1024",
"truce",
"steemzzang",
"jsg",
"lichtblick",
"inchonbitcoin",
"ssc-token",
"cjh",
"veronicalee",
"uzgo",
"kibumh",
"btcmillennial",
"labradorpuppies",
"cnfund",
"floridasnail",
"rakkasan84",
"cool191",
"honusurf",
"ricky.gold",
"ilovemylife",
"loveecho",
"djusti",
"john371911",
"mehta",
"opixer",
"happyworkingmom",
"koyuh8",
"tradingideas",
"windowglass",
"ksc",
"ioioioioi",
"skuld2000",
"justyy",
"seo-boss",
"twinpapa",
"sandisk",
"kwonjs77",
"kimseun",
"happyberrysboy",
"cmp2020-pb",
"jewel-lover",
"donekim",
"greece-lover",
"sct",
"smy",
"gallop",
"sindong",
"thegreatgatsby",
"j-car",
"isaaclab",
"wonsama",
"naha",
"jjy",
"goodhello",
"trevonjb",
"lhy",
"zzings",
"remlaps1",
"aidasfg7",
"ediya",
"kanadaramagi123",
"nexgen",
"tabris",
"sindoja",
"spoke",
"project7",
"kopasi.sct",
"ayogom",
"wondumyungga",
"dongsuh",
"machellin",
"sun510",
"corn113",
"newiz",
"holic7",
"parisfoodhunter",
"realmankwon",
"menerva",
"hodolbak",
"electrodo",
"ys1302",
"buk-translate",
"bongje",
"rynow",
"solnamu",
"fenrir78",
"ringit",
"lighthil",
"seraphim502",
"mooninwater",
"kgbinternational",
"gustavomonraz",
"shenchensucc",
"yoon",
"jacobyu",
"jademont",
"ultranew",
"bigwave",
"soosoo",
"docker",
"sct.curator",
"tworld",
"devsup",
"edgarare1",
"jaykayw",
"hyokhyok",
"freedompoint",
"banguri",
"juancar347",
"kcc",
"triplea.bot",
"tailcock",
"jungjunghoon",
"infidel1258",
"maiyude",
"honeybeerbear",
"kingbit",
"jungch98",
"deer3",
"atomy1",
"epitt925",
"relaxkim",
"venti",
"funtraveller",
"skymin",
"dmsqlc0303",
"softmetal",
"dorian-lee",
"cmp2020",
"angelslake",
"alexaventuria",
"wordit",
"gmarket",
"jack8831",
"mrspointm",
"feelsogood",
"foreveraverage",
"kibaek",
"totopapa",
"isi3",
"kstop1",
"vip",
"storysharing",
"hhusaini",
"sklara",
"balticbadger",
"tshering-tamang",
"mrpointp",
"sasaadrian",
"kbaek81",
"angelina6688",
"abdullar",
"yinyangboobookat",
"maikuraki",
"jianan",
"aellly",
"proxy.token",
"steemflower",
"jjm13",
"levycore",
"firealiean",
"peterpa",
"lucky2",
"travelwithus",
"cub1",
"yellowbird",
"ravenkim",
"sunny1124",
"dr-frankenstein",
"soufiani",
"autorent",
"xiaoshancun",
"cheva",
"yann03",
"sweetpapa",
"goplayer",
"gfriend96",
"wongshiying",
"thebigsweed",
"iieeiieeii",
"tkdgjs79",
"banjjakism",
"huangzuomin",
"farm-mom",
"akiroq",
"travelnepal",
"kdtkaren",
"kungdel",
"reportup",
"matildah",
"blacklux",
"dappinvestor",
"kopasi",
"anroja",
"sgbonus",
"lupafilotaxia",
"dakeshi",
"dftba",
"stepbie",
"mimistar",
"sleepcat",
"remlaps-lite",
"chapchop",
"ricko66",
"eps",
"scottcbusiness",
"lucky222",
"cn-malaysia",
"deusjudo",
"kakakk",
"abduhawab",
"dailystats",
"zzan.hmy",
"steemchiller",
"ryanhkr",
"remlaps",
"lotusfleur",
"backdm",
"devyleona",
"daydayup",
"bulsik",
"tuckerjtruman",
"lifeskills-tv",
"norwegiansteem",
"yanirauseche",
"newbijohn",
"trueimagine",
"zzan.witnesses",
"brewcitygardener",
"wira8788",
"dailyke20",
"tinker-bell",
"pizzafamily",
"don-thomas",
"knight4sky",
"rainingfall",
"dailychina",
"chetanpadliya",
"akinome",
"lovelyyeon",
"zzan.atomy",
"palja",
"ksheva1",
"fadetoblack",
"autoway"


  • 너희들 스팀도 동일하게 대우된다는 것을 잊지 말거라.

  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.


  • 그리고 아래 이미지는 프록시토큰의 증인보팅 내역 입니다.

  • And the image below shows the witness statement of @proxy.token



  • 너희들의 이런 결정이 중앙화이고, 검열인거야.(Your decision is centralization and censorship.)

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Anyone who contributed to have 90% of the chain controlled by one server controlled by one entity for months is not welcome on this new chain.

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Yup... totally agree, but someday, we gotta be open to the idea that Hive will hardfork into another chain, say
LIBERTY (FromAssholesWhalesStakeHolder)... and then folks will mass powerdown Hive and sell it to oblivion after the hardfork like what's going to happen to Steem. The precedent has been set. I look forward to doubling my HIVE when that happens.

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This one raises one of the major concerns I was thinking when the Hive split off; they claimed that they were going to maintain the 'account' on the new servers.

Let's think about that for a moment.

You have an account at bank A, the managers at the bank have an argument with the CEO, so, they decide that they will create bank B across the street and will maintain the accounts and the values of them.

You as a user have an account at bank A and a duplicate at bank B; you can then sell off your accounts and double the funds.

Simply, if cryptos were treated as a type of security, there would be a group of people who would be going to jail for 10-20 years a piece for pulling this kind of stunt.

We should each (ESPECIALLY people who invested real money into the platform) be asking ourselves how we can maintain trust in a system that can be torn apart and redistributed because of those within the community with the most influence?

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I couldnt have said it better my self. Well spoken 👏

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wow. so. I have to say. your example doesn't work with physical money. doubling a list doesn't double funds... but if you use monopoly in the example, it would be perfect


investing is not zero risk. a sucessful investor has to stay updated

@therealmadnessj @bmanmcfly

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Well, yes, copying physical money is illegal, but when you get into reserve banking, only about 10% of the money is physically printed, so, the effect would be the same, so, copying the account and promising to honor the value creates the same effect (never would happen in the real world).

But it does double the funds; or at least the coins at the rate they can be traded at.

Ex; when the split happens, you have a 10k account valued at 5k. That means you doubled the coins, and if the value remained (it shouldn't) you will have doubled the value.

I realize it's far from a perfect analog, but for real, if cryptocurrencies were treated as securities, Sun and all the witnesses would EACH be facing 10-20 years in pound you in the ass federal prison. Make no mistake about it.

Your counter goes to show that crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme in that the value of the 'investment' depends on new investment dollars coming in.

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what I meant is the 2nd bank owner would have to put actual money into it to make it work. which would be stupid since he would have to provide enough money for all of his client's withdrawals. otherwise I would see my bank account having $5000, try but fail to withdraw. because the actual money is not there. it is completely different because the money has to be there

crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme

what. no. what do you think steem originally is, by design? the blockchain itself perfectly serves it's purpose. people who like consuming content get on it and optionally support authors they like. people who like creating content post their stuff here because it might pay off. it works. it is perfect.

people don't understand steem because they don't want to. all they want to see is a pile of numbers. there is a lot more to it than numbers. bitcoin is all numbers. that could be considered a ponzi scheme. anything that is nothing but numbers may fall into that category. not steem

but I guess it is a pointless argument since not a single fucking witness ever wanted to actually work on mass adoption, which is, free instant registrations. from this perspective, they're all retarded

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ps: 10% of a lot of money is still a lot of money. actual physical money is not an idea, it is simply fiat money. utility tokens have nothing to do with it. utility tokens are basically companies pushing out a product, not actual fiat money

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You cant, but same thing will happened if the company you invested for files for bankruptcy.

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theyre both already super cheap but will all end up like golos, so will eops. All @dan larimer chains are scams now

Only telos is the right chain with real governance. Steem and EOS are still useful. hive is more centralized than steem because you saw how fast they moved like a vertically integrated centralized organism lol.

Vitalik and Tone Vays were right

https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/vitalik-buterin-calls-eos-tron-and-neo-centralized-piece-of-trash-201902080151

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That's the issue with DPOS though, you can buy enough stake to control the chain.

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@transisto
I'm very curious to know if you are currently in charge of all the decisions regarding the Hive fork and if this was your decision or if others were involved?

Edit: I'm referring to the exclusion of investors who voted for the sock puppet witnesses.

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You are still controlled by a ninja mined stake, all witnesses will be decided by @freedom

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That's a good point, I'm equally disgusted by the ninja-mined stake there. btrade and freedom, at least btrade is participating and trying to add value, Freedom, not so much.

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Nothing like using a centralized solution to thwart an attempt at centralization, eh?

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LOL! Enjoy the centralized pump and dump network you voted for. Hive doesn't airdrop on the people who voted to attack it.

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How ridiculous to call it : „ethnic cleansing“ when you just get rid of assholes 🙀

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Bleibst Du etwas auch hier? Ich hoffe, Du kommst auch zu Hive!

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Bin schon auf Hive aber gerade am Umstellen, power down etc .....meanwhile poste ich auf APPICS und das sieht man ja noch hier.

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Yea, ^^^ that is a hilariously crappy piece of propaganda.

"H" Who is censoring posts?
"I" Is so stupid I don't even know where to start.
"V" Justin took aggressive actions, A TEMPORARY hold was put on the steemit inc. funds, in defense of everyone on this chain, till there was clarification. It absolutely justified.
"E" Folks from all over the world are over on Hive, including some Koreans. So..... That can objectively be labeled Absolute Bullshit.

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#GodwinsLaw
At least in what the "E" stands for.

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I missed all of this... I was over posting via Dporn and surviving the Pandemic. I have not touched my voting setting in 2 years probably.

So what exactly happened with Hive?

I know Justin Sun bought Steemit and people didn't like the idea. Now what?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

How does this affect the content creators?

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

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So what exactly happened with Hive?

https://peakd.com/communityfork/@hiveio/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

Yep, equal to what you had on Steem when Hive launched.

How does this affect the content creators?

Post on Hive, we're all there. You can post on Steem too, but a lot of people aren't curating here anymore. It seems pointless to add content to a fucked up platform being run into the ground by the idiot who bought Stinc.

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

Use https://hive.blog if you like steemit.com although https://peakd.com, the Hive version of SteemPeak, is pretty nice.

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THEY LITERALLY TOOK THE MOST DECENTRALIZED OPTION.

LET THE COMMUNITY DECIDE THE FATE OF THOSE WHO ATTACKED THE VALUES OF DECENTRALIZATION

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the community didnt decide anything. The witnesses did. the community didn't vote for the exclusion of accounts.

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The excluded account can make an appeal to the community on #Hive

Go cheer to your new Führer J. Sun who meanwhile controles something around 100-110Million STEEM, bought in a private deal from N. Scott.. You stay on STEEM, you'll never be free and you know it. Whatever, life is too short, I don't care.

Why was I included I proxied Dan and only had set my votes before that years ago

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I think they have a way to appeal for that. Check their discord server or message any witness to help you with that. I'm sure they will understand your situation. At least I hope so.

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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

How do you define "blockchain"? Is it just a centralized database controlled by one person or something more? How can you support someone who intends to run a blockchain like a centralized database? "Ethnic cleansing" is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't about race at all, it's about those who chose to attack Steem and made it clear by their actions they are not interested in what Hive represents (decentralization).

That said, I didn't agree with the criteria used or the subjective method for how it was determined. I understand the perspective of those who came up with it, but I would have preferred to just exclude the Steemit ninja-mined stake just as v0.22.2 did. You can read my witness post here for more details. Those who were excluded can submit a proposal to get their Hive tokens, as far as I understand.

Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

Maybe something is lost in translation here, but what do you mean by this? Do you mean in the future Hive might restrict your tokens? I would not support that as long as I'm a witness. This initial launch of Hive is about separating out those who actively attacked Steem by centralizing it.

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Link to submit proposal because i rushed to action when this all first started and left a couple witnesses selected by mistake before i found out who was who, and boom i'm forked out of the airdrop. Let me know if/when they have a link for this.

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I'm not sure what the overall solution will be, but I suggest keeping track of proposals here: https://peakd.com/me/proposals

I hope something gets worked out.

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Head over to the Discord and chat people up. I'm sure you'll find a solution.

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Judging from the previous conversation, I believe that you are worth talking to.

You read lots of replies (including some on your own posts) or postings that explicitly say "korea" and/or "chinese". I don't think we need more evidence.

I am still waiting for the official airdrop and launch to confirm. Yet, such discriminate behavior contradicts the main value of Hive - decentralization.

Will write more after the fork. Good luck.

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The criteria is clear,
1 vote for more than 2 fake witnesses and has more than 1000.SP

Do you not get the intent of this selection?

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Unfortunately, the criteria is not clear. Take a look at my votes.
It will come back to you like a ninja mining stake.
Shady start once again.

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Sorry to see that, Did you apply to the airdrop appeal?

Edit: I see that you will get your token and it was a mistake.

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Hey Luke, as you can see on this post, @proxy.token has voted both side of them to buy time to talk each other. Many of Kr members wanted to protect this place. But initial launcher of Hive has treated us like a stranger or sock puppet of tron.

Every STEEM holder has their own voting right to 30 witenesses. That is a fundamental utility of STEEM. But you guys has excluded accounts that has voted to tron 2 or more. Do you think this is reasonable and decentralized way? How could you..

You guys already did violation of property right 2 times. HIVE is the most centralized and censorship-powered blockchain ever.I don't want to see the token listing of Permissioned blockchain on our Korean crypto-exchange.

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Your property is not being touched. You owned STEEM, you still own your STEEM. What you don't own is HIVE, but you never owned it, so no one has touched your property.

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Word. Truth is truth regardless of who says it.

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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive



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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive



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You tried playing kingpin. It wasn’t sustainable. I loathe to say it but proxy.token’s return was the worst powerplay I’ve ever seen.

Nevertheless I totally appreciate that PT switched to maintaining a no HF status and I absolutely do not support a free platform where one can not vote freely. In this whole situation, ever since 22.2, nothing has gone right. Nobody EVER made any positive moves, it was a never-ending disaster, made worse day after day.

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OMG! Another leech is coming. A real disaster is Steem has lots of farmers, like you, til now.

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Thank you for the compliments. Sadly enough, I actually do support the PT side in the airdrop debate. I also did express my respect for installing the status quo.

I guess not, I guess I’m merely a leech and a farmer apparently. Too bad about all the time I invested in steem, without actually posting.

Enjoy your day and your pedestal. See you!

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True, man.

Ethnic Cleansing? That's a little harsh, maybe hostile to counterview is warranted.

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The ethnic group of people who vote for fake witnesses to subvert community consensus.

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Well, they did happen to share an ethnicity, but plenty from other ethnicities are also excluded from the airdrop due to their choice to support a centralized hostile takeover.

That's horrible.

Why do you care if HIVE isn't going to give you any free tokens? You still have your steem, let people do what they want with their stake

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Why wouldn't they? Hive is a steem fork and the existence is going to crash steem. If the community was going to leave to a new chain and exclude everyone but you, you would probably be pretty annoyed about it as well.

let people do what they want with their stake

Says the person defending the exclusion of certain steemians stake.

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Boo hoo, should have thought of that before siding with Justin!

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Some people made mistakes voting for the wrong ppl in the confusion while trying to help and now will be possibly excluded smh (including me) I shoulda just sat on my hands and done nothing maybe? This is crazy.

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They didnt side with Justin, try and keep up here. They voted for enpugh witnesses to keep a power balance and stop either side from hard forking and encouraged communication.

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So then they can stick with steem! Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

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So then they can stick with steem!

Again, they didnt side with justin.

Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

Thats a real strong statment coming from someone who is going to be stuffing his face with that free lunch.

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Lol oh wow as if its a life-changing amount, look at me and my few extra digital cents, seriously?! You're just looking for a bone to pick!

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Hey why dont you show me up and send your hive to @null instead of sitting here boasting about how you already gotten over other people not getting the same benefits that you are.

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Yea, they just make a ransom to remove downvotes and shorter power down.

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You mean the things Justin Sun wanted to do in the first place? They prevented Sun from hard forking the chain so that they could demand he do the things he wanted to do?

Fucking lol, again, as I asked the other guy. Please show the proof of this claim.

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Proxy token posted a whole fucking post. Asking witnesses to comment on those topics. U claim to know whats going on but completely oblivious of everything that went on in last 2 weeks.

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Thank you for posting a source, I actually found another one up in their blog. That said, I really don't see these as demands. More like figuring out who to vote for. You made it sound like they were threatening to vote for Sun if the demands weren't met. Or visa versa.

The only witness they were voting for that answered postively seems to be timcliff. In the post in their blog ausbitbank gave a flat no and they voted him. There were plenty of others who would give them what ever they wanted. I didn't see a comment from blocktrades or yabbapmatt or roelandp, but I doubt thats the kind of thing they would support.

These are real people you know, and unlike Sun they bought their steem at market value. They should be able to vote for witnesses that aline more to their values.

Thats what literally every other voter does.

I see your mate's on the list, I guess he'll be moaning about that.

Sad not to see crystalieu or however you spell it there.

I was also wondering whether blockbrothers might be on there, they did kind of say they were happy to consider working with Sun.

Work, why would you want to do a thing like that!?

Yet another proof that we are dealing with ideologically possessed communists who don't believe in private property rights.

What a lovely message for all the investors and users.

If you don't like our commy utopia, we will excommunicate you.

This is their vision of decentralization :D

LOL

If Steemit and/or Hive are censoring what doesn't suit them, I'm not agree with any website because of being better than Steemit or better than Hive. Personally, I don't want to keep good/evil with any one. This competence is ridiculous & inmature to me.
I don't know why the %&@~=! are Hive fighting against Steemit & viceversa.
They dont seem decentralized websites ¡They seem political parties!

Make your own fork and exclude anyone you want.

I I don't like any type of hegemony where money or a platform is concerned. The curators and main authors of steem pretty much ran it how they wanted and rarely cared to bring the best the platform had to offer to new users. Seems like as long as a stranger isn't the oppressor were all good? Decentralization is decentralization. it isnt a sales pitch. its a lifestyle.

what can I say? I didn't even know what I've supported because I voted @justyy as my proxy.

来自于 [WhereIn Android] (http://www.wherein.io)

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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

저들에게 프록시토큰의 보팅은 유지되나요?

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지금 철회 했습니다.

Hi @kopasi I am kind of pissed off as I was eagerly waiting to Join Hive today I logged in and my wallet does not work it just says "Host Error" so I can't upvote or comment or do anything. I thought it was suppose to mirror Steemit. I have been on Steemit for almost 4 years, this is not a good intrduction to the new HIVE Platform.😵

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Hey Karen, don't fret! Your account has its share of the airdrop just as it was on Steem at the time of the fork: https://hiveblocks.com/@karenmckersie

Any issues you're experiencing are temporary hiccups that will happen when something like this occurs. I believe https://peakd.com (SteemPeak but for Hive) should work for you.

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Oh ok that's awesome, thanks so much for your reply @pfunk !✌✊👍

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Now when I check my wallet it says "Access Denied" I will try tomorrow, today is a bust!✊💪

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@pfunk I tried the peakd link and can't figure out how to log in, it directed me to log into GitHub for some reason even though I have keychain, so I signed up for GitHub and still can't figure out how to log into Hive , no wonder people don't sign up for these things, lol Im giving up after an hour of wasted time try9ng to go on Hive again today Why does it now say Access Denied!? It would be so much easier if I could just log into my wallet like everyone else, I guess I will just stay on Steemit, thanks for the help!

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Try to log in the Hive.com or Peakd.com now. ;-) It should work fine for a development of little bit more than 3 weeks. :-)

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same for me pfunk back from a hiatus.. do i just use my password to sign into hive? regards cnts

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Yes. https://hive.blog will work just like Steemit, and you can use https://peakd.com with your posting and optionally active key using Peaklock or with the Hive Keychain browser add-on.

All accounts and credentials carried over to Hive.

@kopasi please look into this, when the confusion started i placed votes on people who i thought where the original witnesses and i even made a post educating people about who the different witnesses are

https://steemit.com/steem/@truce/here-is-the-list-of-justin-s-witnesses

Once I found out who i believed where the different witnesses are i went BACK into the vote list and did my best among the confusion to ensure all my votes where correct. I apparently missed a couple as a obvious mistake. Why would i vote all original witnesses and leave two or more new ones voted for on purpose?? This was all done before I knew anything about hive. I have over 58k steem and now i will be excluded from the fork due to this??

I had my vote for @therealwolf for since i can remember and only started trying to vote otherwise when everyone said they needed my help. Now boom i get excluded. As of reading this i have removed all my votes other than for sure original names that I know for sure where not new witnesses. I am requesting that my case be re-evaluated as I planned to move to hive. Any feed back is much appreciated.

The current witnesses I have votes for is as follows:

@steemitboard
@blockbrothers
@arcange
@therealwolf
@aggroed
@drakos
@yabamatt
@anyx
@steempress
@gtg
@themarkymark

Not sure what 2 or more witnesses I had voted for that caused me to be on this list but if I populated on this list then it must be from prior to me finding out who is who. There has been quite the confusion and i'm sure I am not the only one.

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Hey @truce. I think what you need to do is create a proposal using the proposal system on Hive. Basically saying what you wrote in your comment. Then community will vote. Based on that you will get your airdrop. Before you create a proposal maybe get more clarification how to properly do it in Hive’s discord.

Good luck!

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Ok thanks, will do.

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How to create a proposal in hive ? Any link please ?

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I don’t know yet. I would ask people on discord or wait for an announcement with instructions.

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any word?

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Read this regarding second airdrop: https://peakd.com/hive/@blocktrades/quick-update-on-hive-related-activities-at-blocktrades

Read comments in that posts too. Some answer the question on airdrop on excluded accounts.

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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

If you don't decentralize the chain enough then bad actors will attempt to take advantage.

I care very little, but every step you take. Show more. You only talk about decentralization. Because you have to talk about something with which you will defend yourself from your actions.

A decentralized chain would never have absolutely excluded anyone. Bitcoin has never excluded anyone or anything.

Continue your project, in which each step you take and presume to take.

You show more.

That you are not much more than the same of what you accuse the new majority owner of Steemit.

Congratulations, for your terrible contradictions.

These guys just destroyed my already small reputation for having these same concerns.

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about. You were happy with steem as long as there's no downvote and shorter power down. Both those things are not present in HIVE and you still have all your steem tokens as before.

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@mightypanda You will know this correctly, if steemit blocks your steem account after buying steem from hard earn money. And you are not in a situation to do anything for release of funds. Think....
@justinsunsteemit how about this.

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Ned said he disclosed ninja mine stake. Still justin bought thinking he would make a quick buck. Didnt work out well. I genuinely want to know why these guys want to get on hive chain. It has all the things they did not like abt steem on thr. And since hive token is an airdrop and not a swap what they they r complaining abt.

@kopasi I am also don't like the situation. You can see my thoughts on this by post
https://steemit.com/hive-186042/@mehta/our-thoughts-supporting-20-witness-justinsunsteemit-hive-punishment
Can you know how to contact Mr. Justin Sun? If you have something let me know at discord with same id.

한국 분들은 거의 스팀에 남겠네요...

You reap what you harvest.

Enjoy your centralized chain.

kr 많은 분들 제외군요!! 저도... 잘가라 하이브~

I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later.....
Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

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^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

  • Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
  • Discord, website, youtube channel links here.

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later.....

Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

  • Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
  • Discord, website, youtube channel links here.

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

i was amazed to see my name in the list.
i set @justyy as proxy a few months ago.
After that, I didn't manage that.
I'm innocent.
What else can I do now?
Thanks.
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Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

nothing about race here...

I'll just leave this here for no reason.

lol well as an investor, I can't be more pleased with how things turned out, I manage to sell 1/2 my Steem for 8000 Satoshis, and remaining 1/2 I got free Hive from Bittrex which I can freely trade now. Just waiting for Hive to get bid up by fomo investors before selling my stake on bittrex for even greater profits....to much ego an too little thinking = opportunity.

Justinsun and witnesses have full control now. If you want you guys can do whatever you want, here are some extreme examples:

a) make 1 day powerdown for ONLY the exclusion list and of course justinsun's friends like binance.

b) Freeze all Hive benefactors, the old witness, dolphines, orcas, and whales who are now doing 100% powerdown OR freeze their transfer in a hardfork that say > 5,000 SP, so they can sell and dump Steem until it goes down 90% value from 2600 Satoshi to like 260 Sats to pushing existing Steem users.

c) Hell... you can just mute all the big Hive accounts on Steem with a hardfork...

Basically the possibilities are endless.

BUT

Unfortunately, you don't have much time. The big powerdown starts coming down in 3 days time....then Steem will crash unless they can't sell. Good luck talking to Justin to get his support to take action now.

Justin sun is a cancer to this space. We just need to kick it out and work on projects

한국 유저들은 거의다 뺀다고 보면 되겠네요

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그런거 같습니다. 재미진 친구들이예요.

I think a few things are getting mashed up here. I believe there big is a difference between having another opinion and controlling the ecosystem in which the opinion is expressed...

So some people were penalized for voting?

How do you sign into Hive with your Steem keys?

Quieres hacer algo productivo para ti/por ti en esta cuanentena?, Listo a que te presento anda a este link: shrinkme.io/DDw9I9Yl

I see my name is on the list of people voting for 2 x sockpuppets or gave a proxy to somebody who voted for them. According to me I did not give any proxies. I know I voted for goodguy24 by mistake and changed immediately when I was made aware. I also changed all my witness votes to the top real steem witnesses as soon as the trouble started in order to help get them to the top. I also started powering down immediately.

Please let me know of the details why I am on the list!!

How to join hive AirDrop?

HIVE Could Face a Massive Class Action Lawsuit for Intellectual Property Theft

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A group of rogue members of the Steem blockchain community have unilaterally copied the intellectual property of millions of content creators without even the slightest decency to even attempt to seek their consent...

kr 을 의도적으로 배척하네요.
고민하지 않게 알아서 해 줘서 고맙네요.

Man fuck this shit, Im the anti-community guy, that mf always against everybody, well thats me, idk just fuck yall, like fo real. Yall better love how Justin an CZ are playing this Blockchain shit like a monopoly, those are the ones who are going to get rich, nobody wants decentralization we just wnat money just admit it

하이브가 도대체 뭔지...?;;;;;;;

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What hostile to property rights bullshit? It is an airdrop. The hive community decides who they want to airdrop tokens to. They aren't taking away your tokens.

imagine being retarded.

Now Steem looks like a frozen Account machine. For me it was the right desicion to drive for Hive. This "new" persons with a stake and power i never knowed from @ned s talking like: "there is no ninja-mined stake" is a try to get on new way´s and i get my work with it. My work here on the chain is why i leave. I would know other people have more soul in this blockchain than a scammer like justin and his follower. His tron is a joke and scam, like so many other "blockchains" (Lohol) in the new Crypto Ecosystem. Where i am able to mine Tron? Now i "mine" Hive as a witness in the future.

Have a good time on the same you called the fork.

can someone tell me how you can withdraw from hive? have tried every exchange your registered on and just get transaction broadcast error.

개천에서 용 난다

Dear Kopasi and all @proxy.token voters. You have a compelling point, yet "Ethnic Cleansing" is a very loaded, insinuating reasoning, which is obviously not the reason for this ruleset about the airdrop: Consensus in the Hive group decided the specific rulesets for this INITIAL airdrop. You can find the rules for the ruleset in the code of 23.0 which you are already stating in this article.

등잔 밑이 어둡다

Please notice the words: INITIAL.

I want to emphasize that the Hive chain is a new beginning, with 50+ developers working on the chain and its direct projects. So, exciting times ahead!

While I understand it is painful to see @proxy.token proxy voters with more than 1K SP being excluded from the INITIAL airdrop, I want to let you know that the case for "forgiveness" is very much alive. We all make mistakes.

HOWEVER, the funds for those not included on the Hive Airdrop have simple been moved to the DAO HIVE FUND and will NOT be burned or in any other way used for the foreseeable future.

"Hive Chain"에 대한 "Airdrop"-펀드가 여러분을 기다리고 있습니다:

The Airdrop Funds for the Hive Chain are waiting for you:

You are very welcome to start a Proposal on behalf of the Proxy.Token voters to unlock those funds.

Please understand that consensus was reached on the specific rules for the "exclusion of initial airdrop"-list. Anyone can run any software.

I very much encourage you once the fork is complete and stable, to look into a Voting Proposal and depending on how it looks I might very much be for a "forgiveness" vote, but it will depend on your proposal.

If you don't like that, obviously everyone is very welcome to stay with the Steem chain or run their own software.

  • 고생 끝에 낙이 온다
  • 김치국부터 마시지 말라
  • 원숭이도 나무에서 떨어진다
  • 매도 먼저 맞는 게 낫다

Looking forward to your proposal on behalf of proxy.token voters on the Hive chain!

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In no way should anyone that voted for the sock puppets get a pass.

That is double the case for the Koreans.

They could have at any time removed the sock puppets from power.

They decided to ask for ransom instead of trying to bridge the gap between tron and us.

That's what I expected during the talks with Justin. Creating understanding due to their tie breaker position.

Instead they wanted to get payed and accepted bribes from Justin.

And now this post. I find them despicable and it has nothing to do with their race or nationality.. How dare they even insinuate such a thing.

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Even if hardfork 0.22.2 freezes certain accounts, @proxy.token tried to stay neutral. @proxy.token voted on both sides.

@proxy.token tried to make a conversation with Tron and steem witnesses. You can look at SCT discord. Anybody can watch the conversation.

Why do you blame Korean and @proxy.token?

Hive will have a plan to freeze certain accounts that have different opinion from hive's opinion..
I am really disappointed.

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No one is freezing any funds on Hive.

And please Google meaning of the word "neutral".

Neutral would have been not voting at all. They were not neutral.

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Voting for enough witnesses that neither side could istitute a hard fork is one of the most neutral things somebody could do.

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No it is not. It's playing sides.

Not voting for anyone has the same effect if neutrality was the goal. It was not.

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Not voting for anyone would have let the chain get taken over by who ever had the greater cash flow. Which probably would have been sun with the help of the exchanges

Again, thanks to votes from SCT and the rest of the korean community neither side could have made a move.

Witness votes are not a one shot deal so choosing to not vote is not the same as voting for both sides.

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Helping maintain centralization on the chain is in no way neutral.

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Helping to maintain centralization on the chain would be voting for 17+ tron witnesses. What they did is prevent either side from acting and tried to encourage conversation.

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They did not encourage conversation. They made a list of demands.

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They decided to ask for ransom instead of trying to bridge the gap between tron and us.

Source?

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Go to their discord and search for the talks between witnesses and Justin.
Or simply search through Ausbitbank posts and find the video.

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Why should I have to sift through discord chat logs? If what you said is true then surely someone has made a post about it with the relevant information.

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There's a post on my blog.

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https://steemit.com/sct/@lordbutterfly/unfortunately-the-korean-justin-discussion-was-a-complete-waste-of-time

This one? Because I am still not seeing any kind of evidence except for you saying something happened. And I really don't feel like going on a hunt for something that may not even exist.

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Exactly @lordbutterfly good riddance to them. I remember that giant extortion letter full of demands from the community. Now they want to cry about the airdrop exclusion , cry racist, censorship blah blah blah.
I say WELCOME TO THE CONSEQUENCE OF YOU OWN FUCKING ACTIONS

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The demand, as I understood it, was for a 3-day power down. Well, they have control of the steem blockchain now and the power down still takes 13 weeks. I wonder why that is? Could it be that a great many people have started a power down?

The above is a rhetorical question. I guess they realized the reasoning why a 3-day powerdown was anathema to the former STEEM witnesses.

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Thanks for the reply.

So who made this decision? Please let me know. You said "consensus", which implies multiple people.

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Glory7 go make your fork and exclude any account you want.

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anyone running v23.0 and or will run v23.0 signals agreement with the code.

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Thank you for letting me know. While our opinions may be different, I would like to let you know that it was pleasant discussing with you.

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곰돌이가 @glory7님의 소중한 댓글에 시세변동을 감안하여 $0.003을 보팅해서 $0.039을 지켜드리고 가요. 곰돌이가 지금까지 총 7704번 $104.304을 보팅해서 $104.173을 구했습니다. @gomdory 곰도뤼~

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So if we have a hard fork that freezes your steem, it's okay because we are consensus. it's right?

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Do what you want (in fact you can't be prevented from doing so; that is exactly what it means to be a decentralized system), people can decide whether to support it or not.

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And not to support means that the majority may steal the property of the "non-supporter"?
Absolutely captivating logic, this is a very strange understanding of community.

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You're blocking accounts, accounts don't have an ethnicity, just chuck that line back at them. There's nothing to defend here.

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No accounts are blocked. The accounts will still work fine on Steem (in fact also on Hive). Hive invites supporters of a decentralized blockchain who fought (unsuccessfully) to decentralize Steem and keep it decentralized, and honors them with an airdrop equal to their Steem holdings.

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Apologies, wrong choice of word maybe! I meant 'not receiving the airdrop' of course!

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Yes very true. It is completely decided through a script which ran an objective comparison and came up with the result based on the ruleset.

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@roelandp I was eagerly waiting to join Hive and when I logged in to my wallet there it says "Host Error" after being on Steemit for almost 4 years I can't understand why I can't use Hive!? I can log in but can't upvote or comment etc. I never supported Justin and 0nly have 713 Steem power and 88 steem, so why is it not working for me!?

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This was a huge fork. It always takes time to make adjustments. Just be Be patient and it will come. My wallet isn’t there yet either

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ok thanks, I can't do any curating etc without it.

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At Peakd.com the wallets are working

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I tried going there but I can't log in!?I spent an hour on that earlier, thanks though!

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Where are you trying to access it at...
Go to this site https://peakd.com and log in with your Steem name and keys, set a 5 dig PIN and unlock your account there. once in click on your name in the upper right and click wallet on the drop down menu.... Wallah
I've been using my Hive wallet there since it went live.

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I've tried before to log in there but it won't work for my for 2 days now! Thanks though for the info if I find time I will try again, but at least I can keep using Steemit , all of my posts that I make are on the Appics App anyways that automatically post over to Steemit. But still it would have been nice to try out the new site.👍✌✊

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And who set the rule? The rule itself is very subjective, as @lukestroke also wrote.

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Quite! One thing I dislike more than racism, and there's not a lot of things, is defamatory claims against someone for being racist, at least when those claims are obviously not based in fact and are almost certainly just being done to harm someone's, or in this case (bizarrely) a blockchain's reputation.

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¿ Por curiosidad?
¿ Con que criterio se determina quien es una marioneta de Tron?

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Todos los que corrieron el código del fork 22.5, que Steemit votó, y usaban todos el mismo servidor en China. Es un grupo de 20 cuentas que fueron creadas todos el mismo día, comenzaron a correr todas el mismo código, y todas fueron votadas todas las cuentas de Steemit, Poloniex, Binance y Huobi. Dada su uniformidad, es fácil ver que fueron creadas todas por la misma persona, y por eso se les llama "sockpuppet" (marioneta), porque no eran personas reales sino todas la misma persona. Steemit y Justin Sun admitieron este hecho. Puedes revisar los posts en @steemitblog.

Adicionalmente tampoco se les da Hive a los que apoyan el fork 22.5 aunque no sean marionetas, porque están apoyando un esfuerzo de centralización no deseada para el blockchain.

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I voted a few witnesses for Tron by accident when the call was made for witness votes. One I learned my error I switched the votes immediately. I am a real person and very much a supporter of the.ö community. I was upset at first but now I learned it was a screaming process used by a by bot a personal attack. Please I ask for a forgiveness vote so I can continue on the hive chain. Thank you

This is a great time to learn of the dangers of centralization of power.

Many months ago I was firmly against the practice of SP delegation. The power of many minds was converted into one vote. That one vote was then used to support things like plagiarism and false advertising. People were not free to decide. Instead the responsibility to decide was placed into the hands of ONE, and since only ONE could decide, everyone else had to deal with the consequences of that decision.

The content on the platform was terrible. That content being supported by things like bid bots and delegation pools turned eyes away. Eyes are the most valuable asset when it comes to a content production platform. People put short term profits ahead of EYES and we all watched the value of everything we worked to achieve plummet.

Now we have proxy voting. Similar to SP delegation pools. It's CENTRALIZED power. The one at the top made the decision, and now everyone else who FORFEITED their responsibilities has to suffer the consequences.

This proxy token group voted in support of centralization. That was YOUR decision. That's what YOU wanted.

The proxy token group actively participated in a Sybil attack on a blockchain. That is what YOU wanted to do.

You got EVERYTHING you wanted. Majority of the community was forced out, due to YOUR decisions.

Now money is involved and suddenly you feel like you're being treated unfairly?

How does that even make sense?

The majority took the brunt of the impact, and was forced to leave. You're free to stay here on Steem, as "winners."

You centralized your power. You voted for centralization. Centralization is clearly what you want. So have it. It's yours. Why are you even interested in Hive? That's not what you voted for. Is it because of the money?

You made your call. You got what you wanted. Enjoy it. You win.

Now you can have everything you wanted. Don't want downvotes? Get rid of them. Want short term profits? Have them. Start noticing the platform becomes unsustainable. YOUR PROBLEM. Noticing nobody is consuming content. YOUR PROBLEM. Just deal with it the only way you know how.

Also, making it about race is disgusting. Every human is capable of making a decision and every human must deal with the consequences of said decision. I'm currently dealing with the consequences of my decisions. I don't have a problem with it. Good day or bad day. Positive or negative. One must always deal with the consequences.

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Haha, the fact an account from a project (top witness now) that sold itself out to Justin Sun is downvoting this comment along with the steemit account votes is all the validation I need that bailing from STEEM was the absolute correct choice.

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I'd respond properly but I don't want to give anyone a reason to look at this place. That's far more powerful than things like censorship and this centralized power trip they're on. I won't even shit post for auto votes because that would give people a reason to look at this place.

What downvote? What's a witness? Who's Justin Sun? Steemit? Never heard of it.

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Of course you are right, but it's like a train wreck in slow motion. I can't look away! 🤓

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Well said. You hit the nail on the head.