Simplified News Aggregation: Trump and The Wall: Friday, February 15th, 2019

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This is a simplified news aggregation post focused on topics today from many sources related to Trump and the Wall.

Spending Bill Congress Just Passed Contains Restrictions Making It Almost Impossible For Trump To Build Wall

On Wednesday, the House and the Senate both passed a massive 1,159 page spending bill that they were given less than 24 hours to read. There was a concerted effort by the leadership of both parties to rush this bill through before the American people could be mobilized to oppose it. We are being told that this spending package represents a compromise, but as you will see below, the wording of the bill is so restrictive that it is going to make it just about impossible for President Trump to get anything built on the border. At this point, I think that Trump is counting on declaring a national emergency in order to get his wall built, but the moment he does that the Democrats plan to tie him up in court indefinitely.

In gun-controlled Mexico, the murder rate is nearly 500% HIGHER than in the USA

House Democrats propose OPEN BORDERS in 2019 homeland security budget

WATCH: President Trump Says He Expects the 9th Circuit Court to Block His National Emergency Declaration

President Donald Trump said on Friday that he is expecting the Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit to block his emergency declaration to build the wall — but that he will take it to the Supreme Court where he believes that he will win.

While the president was open about expecting to be sued for the National Emergency, he said that he believes the declaration will “get a fair shake” in the Supreme Court.

President Trump RIPS Paul Ryan for Failing to Deliver Border Wall Legislation in His First Two Years (VIDEO)

President Trump Declares National Emergency — Accuses Chuck and Nancy of “Con-Game” (VIDEO)

President Donald Trump declared a national emergency on the US southern border on Friday.

Ocasio-Cortez: Joaquin Castro and I Aren’t Going to Let President Declare “Fake” National Emergency

Yesterday’s Democrat Sponsored Spending Bill Supports Theory that Democrats Are On Side of Drug Cartels

Report: PRESIDENT TRUMP Frees Up $8 Billion to Build Border Wall (VIDEO)

Congressional Border Deal: $5.3 Billion to Israel, Ukraine, Jordan …But Only $1.37 Billion for Limited Border Fence

Pelosi Warns Republicans: Next President Could Declare National Emergency on Guns

Trump Highlights Angel Moms as Jim Acosta Claims Border Crisis “Manufactured”

Trump’s Declaring A National Emergency To Build The Wall — Here’s What You Need To Know

Now That Trump Has Declared A National Emergency, Here Is What Happens Next

"We'll End Up In The Supreme Court": Trump Emergency Declaration To Face Firestorm Of Litigation

If Socialism Is So Good, Why Are People Moving Away?

Ocasio-Cortez To Introduce Bill Blocking Trump's Emergency Declaration

Donald Trump Announces State of Emergency at Border

Angel Families, Border Patrol Officials in Attendance

Dems Playing ’Con Game’ to Deny Walls Work

Trump Highlights Angel Moms as Jim Acosta Claims Border Crisis “Manufactured”

Democrat Vows To Terminate Trump’s “Fake Emergency” Declaration

Spending Bill Allows Mexican Cartel-Connected Texas Counties to Stop Border Wall

House Republicans Vote 109-87 Against Funding Bill That Allows Only 55 Miles of ‘Pedestrian Fencing’

Acosta Lectures Angel Mom on Trump’s ‘Demonizing’ of Illegals

Trump Set for National Emergency, Celebs Set For Hysterics

Media Ignore Beto Crowd Smashing Trump Piñata, Carrying Mexican Flags

Obama Declared National Emergencies 13 Times Including Swine Flu, Iran and Flint Water Crisis

As it turns out, there are currently 31 ongoing national emergencies over which the president wields certain authorities, the first of which has been in existence since 1979 and is one of only two emergencies declared by Carter.

There were a total of six national emergencies during former President Ronald Reagan’s tenure, as well as four more during the administration of former President George H.W. Bush, all of which have ended.

Former President Bill Clinton declared 17 national emergencies — six of which remain in effect — while former President George W. Bush declared 12 national emergencies, of which 10 remain ongoing.

Then we get to former President Barack Obama, who declared 13 national emergencies, 11 of which continue to this day. Thus far, President Trump has declared three active and ongoing national emergencies.

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Having kept cattle, I'm against a wall.

Walls prevent traffic in either direction. I didn't need to keep stray cattle out of my pasture. I needed to keep my cattle in it.

Walls do prevent traffic, but as a free people, we don't need to be walled into this pasture. There are effective measures that politics has disallowed from being implemented that would prevent illegal immigration without being a barrier to Americans fleeing.

Let's not forget what the Berlin wall was for.

Thanks!

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the point of the wall is to keep the strays OUT...

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We don't need a wall for that.

Nominal political will suffices to enable appropriate incentives to discourage immigration. Those same potential mechanisms will not deter military forces, however, and for that a wall is actually useful. The real problem with a wall on US borders is that will prevent Americans from voting with their feet in the event of catastrophe, of whatever source.

I am 100% against a physical barrier like the Berlin Wall preventing free people from leaving at will. Consider that if some godawful disaster began wreaking havoc in Texas, and FEMA was pulling a NOLA while a wall kept people from fleeing to safety across the border, because we had a temporary need to resort to a wall due to a lack of spine to stop illegal immigrants, many people could actually be harmed by a wall, good Texans all.

Jack Kennedy made the point that America has never needed a wall to keep it's people in, and I'll agree with that - until things get bad enough that Americans may actually want to leave. Since the USA is now the most indebted and incarcerated nation in the history of the Earth, that may not be as farfetched as it seems. It wouldn't take a whole lot of things getting worse before most folks might think it's time to go.

People are actually moving to Mexico now, as a result of political oppression in the USA, as sad and cowardly as that seems to us.

tl;dr we don't need a wall to keep strays out. We just need to let the Border Patrol do it's job.

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the border wall keeps people OUT.
Not In.

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Every wall has two sides. It can't do one unless it can do the other. Only honest folks in control of it can keep it from being used to keep us in if we want to go. In your experience of government, how likely is that to be perfect and permanent?

In mine, it's neither right now.

Edit: also, why do we even need a wall at all? What's keeping Border Patrol from doing it's job, as it has more or less for decades before?

Politics, and nothing else. How will a wall make our politicians better? If they're just as corrupt after a wall is up as they are now, they're going to get the invaders through it, over it, and around it anyway, because that's what corrupt politicians are paid to do.

This influx of immigrants is a result of corrupt politics, not the incompetence of the Border Patrol or lack of a wall. Prior to 1965 and the change in immigration policy, we didn't have this problem. It's deliberate, created by politicians, and going to keep happening with a wall too, because politicians can make a wall as porous as air.

The problem is politics, not construction.

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The wall is the law. Passed by a democratic congress and signed into law in 2006.

Q: why do you NOT want the President to uphold the law?

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"Q: why do you NOT want the President to uphold the law?"

What does that have to do with the issue?

Q: why do you want murderous thugs to kill Americans?

See? I misrepresent you just as easily as you misrepresent me.

No point in that. You don't want to address the actual points I did make, just say so. Don't put words in my mouth. I've got enough in there that I put there already. Ain't no room for extra.

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I don't want murderous thugs to kill americans..that's why I want a wall.
both around my personal property. (fences, security systems...and last ditch bangs) as well as an outer permitter...a southern border wall. A wall between the Western states and the United states would just be gravy.

I'm surprised no one seem to see the similarities between the illegal immigration and the Zombie Apocalypse.
The only real difference I see is that the illegal immigrants are much harder to get rid of than the zombies.

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You can't bang on things and distract them with noise to lure them into a trap. They are too noisy so can't hear any other noises beyond their own mindless chanting and repeating of platitudes.

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