Proof of Engagement based Resource Credits boost: Power Up for hyperactive newbies!

2년 전
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You can boost your account to have up to 50 Steem Power (in total).
How? If you are a hyperactive newbie in need, that shouldn’t be very hard to achieve.

If you want to find if you are eligible please read carefully the instructions below, any spam comments will be flagged.

Why am I doing this?

Last year, I did something similar: (i.e. Power Up for newbies ) to help minnows that were unable to transact in certain conditons due to a bug in the code.

The bug was fixed shortly after that, and now, more than a year later, the whole of the bandwidth system that was used pre-HF20 was replaced by a more advanced and sustainable Resource Credits system. The trouble is that it is not yet perfect and that may affect user experience in some isolated cases.

Resource Credits?

More Steem Power means a bigger impact while voting, but also more Resource Credits.
Resource Credits let you interact with the blockchain - posts, comments, votes, follows, resteems, transfers etc. The more Resource Credits you have, the more operations you can perform before your account “gets tired”. Resource Credits recharge over time.

With HF20, you can create an account on Steem that has no Steem Power at all.
Such account has a minimal amount of Resource Credits (as it would have 3 Steem Power(*)) that lets you do something instead of nothing, like Power Up some STEEM that you transferred to such account, but that’s not really enough for any social interaction by any reasonable standards.
Fortunately, if you sign up using the Steemit site, you receive an additional, temporary delegation of 15 Steem Power(*).
It should be more than enough for beginners. After all, it says that a fully recharged amount of RCs on such account is sufficient for 22 comments(*).
Is that enough? In many cases it is, you can upvote few posts and you make a comment or two a day without any problems.
But in some cases it can be a real stopper.

* current values, subject to change

Why not just give more Steem Power to everyone?

For many reasons.

Nobody has that much Steem Power.

If you wanted to give 50SP to every user, you could only help 200,000 of them.
By the end of this year, we will most likely have over 1,200,000 accounts.

The 1% rule.

In the Internet culture, the 1% rule is a rule of thumb holding that only 1% of the users of a website actively create new content, while the remaining 99% are only lurkers.

Human nature.

Greed. Easy onboarding plus free money equals abuse.
Free is never really free. We, the Steem community, will pay for that.

Alice and Bob joined Steem!

Imagine a Steem user named Bob. Bob joins the platform. Bob is an excited steemian. In the past few days, while waiting for account approval, he has been reading other people’s posts, preparing his own introduction. Now he gets his account, writes an #introduceyourself post, starts voting and commenting on the posts he has found and… suddenly he finds himself unable to even reply to comments under his own post. Of course, he can wait some time until his Resource Credits recharge, or buy some more STEEM and Power Up, but he’s not yet that familiar with the platform or comfortable enough to put his own money into it.

There’s also another user, let’s call her Alice. She has used the platform for some time - she logs on for an hour or two in the evening and is quite active, so she runs out of Resource Credits quite fast. However, she doesn’t have enough Steem Power (yet) to be more active.

If you are struggling with the same issues as Bob or Alice, if lack of Resource Credits stops you from engaging with the Steem community, here’s a temporary solution that you can use:

Proof of Engagement based Resource Credits boost: Power Up for hyperactive newbies.

Rules of engagement

Strong requirements(**)

  • The ability to read and understand the rules.
  • Original, high quality content.
  • No outgoing transfers.
  • No outgoing delegations.
  • No connected vote-selling Dapps.
  • No power down.
  • No liquid STEEM or SBD (all turned into STEEM and Powered Up).
  • All rewards already claimed.
  • Less than 50 Steem Power (including current incoming delegations).
  • No excessive self-upvotes (up to 10% is fine).
  • No Spam (includes resteem spam, follow spam, tag misuse).
  • Fair use.

When - and only when - you meet ALL(**) the requirements listed above, you are you can move on to the next step, which is the list of tasks to complete.

The last task (comment) needs to be completed by the end of October 2018 (UTC).

(**)There might be some small exceptions. See: @boyanpro comment.

Tasks to complete (a little bit of gamification)

  • Go to Steem.Chat
    Please note that chat accounts are separate from Steem accounts, but for the sake of simplicity, use same nickname as your account on Steem.
    I’m there, as Gandalf
  • Say “Hello” on #general channel (warning: no post promotion there)
  • If you’ve already published your introduction post, share the link on the #introduceyourself channel.
  • Take your time to read the introductions of other users.
  • Join the #ProofOfEngagement channel.
  • Tell us why you need a boost.
  • Write a comment under this post (if you don’t have enough RC, let me know on the #ProofOfEngagement channel)
    • The comment must start with the line: #ProofOfEngagement Power Up!
    • It must be followed by links to three best Steem posts you have found on this day.
  • Share link to your Steem account on your other social media channels (Facebook, Twitter etc.)
  • Wait patiently
    If your entry is accepted, your account will be boosted up to 50 Steem Power.
    While you are waiting, make sure that those keywords are familiar to you:
    SteemMonsters, Busy, Steempeak, DTube, SteemSTEM, Utopian
Q&A

Q: How much time do I have to apply for the boost?

You can send your applications by the end of October 2018 (UTC)

Q: How long will I get to keep the delegation?

You will get your delegation for at least one week provided that you meet all the requirements. That’s enough time to engage with the community, and earn some author and curation rewards. Maybe longer. Depends on the quantity and quality of participants.

Q: Are the boosts limited to a specific number of users?

Maybe. 300?

Q: Are there any better ideas to solve the problem?

Yes. Communities and separate (from Steem Power) Resource Credits delegations

Any final decisions to grant, refuse to grant, or withdraw delegations are made by me and only by me.

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Thank you for your entry and congratulations as this is the first comment that qualifies.

You don't really meet all the requirements, but since you are the first one who reached this stage, I'm going to ignore it this time.

Nonetheless some notes that might help you and other minnows:

  • Please note, that being connected with @steemauto app, they can perform automated actions on your behalf (such as voting), that will drain your Resource Credits.
  • You have liquid STEEM and SBD. If you are not going to cash it out in near future, you can Power Up your STEEM, and when it comes to SBD, you can convert it to STEEM and Power Up (it takes 3.5 days), or trade it on Internal Market for STEEM and then Power Up.

I've also upvoted a bit each of those posts you've provided, thanks.

Delegation granted.
You have now 50SP Vote Weight and Resource Credits boosted accordingly.

Good luck!

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Thank you for the advice and thanks for the delegation ! Will put it to good use :)

i remember that last year ;) (btw look how i discover posts fast)

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I'm impressed.

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I found it in a very easy way hehehe

Nice to see what the top witness offers as requirements, they are strong!

There have been a few posts recently offering delegations and, surprisingly to me, the take up was steady at best. They will be arriving every day though, and so this message should be shared.

With Resource Credit delegations, the 'issue' of reduced influence/SP will be gone and, as you mention, there not being enough SP to go round. New users will still be restricted though - good for combating abuse, bad for limiting genuine users ability to interact

Will it be the case that most new accounts come from sign ups from @steemmonsters for example, and they will need issue some RCs for their accounts to play the game?

Bookmarked for the coming week :)

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We also need to keep some balance here. New users are new users. It's OK if they can't do as much as someone who is working hard for months to earn more SP.
Games like Steem Monsters are good example.
They would need to make sure that beginners have enough RC to start playing. If players wants more, they need to earn it or buy invest it. (Here's a difference from "pay to play").

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I agree, and wasn't much for this 10 x boost to RCs given by steemit.inc following the Fork. Now Voting Power and RCs have stabilized, I wouldn't be against halving the booster RCs.

I suspect Steemmonsters will have account sign-up on site, and fund these (previously claimed) accounts with delegated RCs, or SP if this doesn't arrive soon enough.

Communities and separate (from Steem Power) Resource Credits delegations

I look forward to the RC separation from SP.

In all, giving new users who are active and engaged on the chain, is a good goal.

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I look forward to the RC separation from SP.

i read one post that @ned said that we will be able to delegate RC without delegate SP... Will that be posibble? because that is the perfect solution to this RC problem for newbies...

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Right I agree, it will allow for larger holders to permit better access to STEEM, while then still being able to delegate voting power responsibly to projects enabling both project success as well as user growth.

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From what I understand, creating a new RC delegation independent from SP delegation, is something Steemit Inc. is currently working on creating. So we will hopefully get it soon!

And I agree; this will be a great solution to on boarding new users. It's not like most investors even use 10 % of their RCs, so they might as well sell a delegation for it.

Great initiative!
Definitely helps to push newbies bringing in great content.
Thanks a lot for supporting community this way.

You set up too many hard rules as strong requirements. That way you already ruined UX which you tried to fix in the first place.
For example I was very surprised by HF20 RC rules. Didn't expected it when I was trying to be more active on the platform after months of being inactive. Finally I decide to leave facebook and commit more time to Steem and after some posting and commenting I got locked out. Very bad UX.
But regarding your requirements, I had some things done which doesn't fit your "strong requirements". I did it as way of exploring Steem not as malicious acts trying to get some gain. Like self voting. As newbie I didn't know that self voting is something bad to do. Why that feature is there if it is malicious thing to use it? This morning I ran on a voting bot, he commented my post and then I used it just from out of curiosity. Just to see how that works. Not to gain something. Again I was exploring. Being a full time developer, husband and dad I don't have much free time. So my content would be sharing some interesting URLs from tech, science, coding etc. I presume this wouldn't be for you high quality content. But I would like to see some interesting URLs in my feed from these subjects. That can be valuable to share. Some steemians tell me that behaviour should be done through DLike. But I don't like DLike for many reasons, main reason is that site is very slow. So I'm learning something new about Steem every day buy just exploring and trying things. Like for example posting some affiliate links. Now I'm not sure if that is also malicious thing to do.
So, it's clear that I don't fit to your strong requirements. But I'm sure that my activity can be valuable for the community. And that there are many many users like me. I'm sure that lots of those users will leave Steem when they get locked out by insufficient RCs. I will not, because I understand point of RCs and I'm willing to invest into SP. Many of those potentially good users don't. As matter of fact, I'm not interested into getting charity from you. I will buy some STEEM and convert it to SP. I planed to do that just to see if I will have more RCs. As you can see I'm exploring the platform and I want to learn more so I can some day build an app. But I'm writing this just to let you know that you maybe ruin the fun for large amount of users. And that you are preventing large amount of users to join with RCs. So if you wanted to help to newbies, your "strong requirements" shouldn't be that much strong.

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Well. I agree. And actually, they are not ;-)
Please join in :-)

PS
It's not a charity. It's for the sake of the platform. Kind of long term greed ;-)

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Thanks anyway! I appreciate your intentions.

Hmm it's quite good design of RC problem, and I think many newbies will decide to use this chance. But imho period of delegating should be a little bit longer considering that fact that even active people not always can produce excellent content and even if it's so they need possibility to answer for comments and make upvotes to comments. That's why I think time of delegating should be longer

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Well luckily it's at least one week, so it can be longer based on the actual activity of the user.

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Exactly that. I'm just driving off potential abusers.

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I agree, especially that I know best myself how hard it is for me to produce some content. The reason why I wrote about one week is that I wanted to discourage people from seeing here a monetary incentive.

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I understsnd. Thanks for the clarifications.

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Thanks Gandalf for starting such initiative. I was in that situation where I had to choose between vote, comment or post and it's no fun. Hopefully this way it can help more newbies to come to the platform :) Everything the best for you :)

As always @gtg, thank you for being around and for helping both newbies and witnesses on Steem. Your impact on the platform is amazing, hope that more people will follow your lead. Even though you are very busy with the code you still find time to write posts and to help others. Very motivating to do the same.

This is a great initiative and I commend you for the effort! I do some weekly curation posts of a couple of #introduceyourself post to help motivate new users coming onboard to the ecosystem. I will include this post on my comment in said curation to see if it brings some traffic. Thanks for looking out for those who can drive value for all in the future!

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Thank you :-)

RIP inbox?

Thanks for doing this!

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RIP inbox?

It's not that bad, as you can see I'm only with 10 hours delay when it comes to dealing the feedback. ;-)

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Some efficient fingers you got there! :D

Joking asides, do you use third party apps to make replying easy or is it all in Steemit itself?

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Some time ago I was just looking at replies on Steemit starting from those that are unread. Nowadays I like using https://steemworld.org by @steemchiller as a very convenient way of handling events related to my account.

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Steemworld has a reply event manager? Thanks! I will try that out.

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Nothing compared to threaded mail client for example, but you can go to "Account Operations" and set "Filter" to "Comments". Then use "Permlink" to open in Steemit and reply :-)

By the end of this year, we will most likely have over 1,200,000 accounts.

There might be that many names and accounts, but a large part of them will be inactive accounts just as they are now. If steem.io and the steemit witnesses want one million active accounts they have a long way to go. How many accounts that have been made since HF20, (just them) were active today? What was the percentage of the accounts made since then still active and commenting or voting today?

Reality is, this is the internet, the land of instant gratification for a lot of people, if they can not come on and be active in a social manner they will go elsewhere such as whaleshares or weku.

15 Steem Power(). It should be more than enough for beginners. After all, it says that a fully recharged amount of RCs on such account is sufficient for 22 comments()

When you take away the daily 10 votes that has almost always been recommended, and you understand that the only way to get SP is to have votes cast in your direction or to earn a few "Curation" points for SP, you no longer have the ability to make 20 comments after doing 10 votes.

I think that the people with more than 50 SP have no real clue what is needed in order to use steemit to the fullest as a new user.

As a witness, and one in the upper parts of witnesshood run the numbers and make a post about the results. Number of new accounts made since HF20 vs Number of accounts that were active on 10-21-2018. Show the users of steemit what the numbers are. I am just a user, I do not have the programing knowledge to do this or I would. I can tell you that at a minimum 36 SP is what is needed to be a functioning member of steemit.

Chyba deczko przesadziłeś z tymi wymaganiami 😛

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It's mostly for those who are in need of Resource Credits but don't want to put their own $$$ (yet?).
Hyperactive newbies wouldn't mind putting some effort.
It's an effort based anit-abuse filter.

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It would be interesting to see some stats eventually - to see how many people were willing to comply :)

what you are doing is pretty cool and helpful towards the community. I keep saying that interaction is the key that we need to do all we can to maintain this. I have also said multiple times about the bad interface that not really helps adding to it but ok :P

My opinion is to give the sp for at least a month given the fact that as you said engage. Either way you can check their profiles before you delegate and see whether they "deserve" it or not.

If you wanted to give 50SP to every user, you could only help 200,000 of them.
By the end of this year, we will most likely have over 1,200,000 accounts.

but if suddenly someone gave 50 or 100 or 200 sp to only the daily active users as a reward for their activity and interaction who are around 55-60k (exclude the bots and double accounts and you gonna have 30-40k) it will be great and a motivation factor for anyone!

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Stats only indicate that we are 55 / 60K daily active users. The Netcoins contest though proved otherwise....I highly doubt we are that many...

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One can be active without participating in a contest. Many are being "active" with very little transaction and mostly trying to show themselves off, not even reading a single post about how important it's to participate otherwise too.

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and many use autoving services and curation trails that count them as active! From my understanding because i made a post about the sad reality of netcoins the active users that interact both by posting and commenting are around 10k from those 55-60k

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The problem with giving out Steem Power is that it doesn't really empower creators who received such a gift.
We also don't want to give up on encouraging users to buy more Steem Power.
A week that I mentioned here is just for discouragement. Yes, you read that right. I don't want greed to come to play that's why it's not really profitable for abuse, and quite complex to be massively automated.
But it is still a nice bonus to have for users, that really just need some more Resource Credits for their daily routines.

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i think there is no right and wrong answer to that, it's a matter of perspective. For instance i made an "oath" and many others too, not to spend a single $ of our own and only earn and spent what we are making here. So there is no way "people like me" to buy more Steem and thus SP.

Also, for me that mostly everyday making posts, upvoting, commenting and replying (all manually) if somebody gave me out of nowhere a certain amount of sp or add me in his autovoting list i would feel like he/she is giving me the world. Like my posts actually deserve something cause right now and given the real active users and bid bots there is not actual interaction and true content value. Thus i would get the motivation to become even better and even more active and thus spreading more Steemit, cause i would feel great

As i said again it's a matter of perspective and i think we are both correct and wrong at the same time. Some people with the extra sp will get motivated and and become way more active and others will just become more greedy especially if the delegation is for longer time

Great support for community :)

Maybe we can send RC in the future. I've got accounts with STEEMPOWER that don't transact much other being used as a spare wallet and some vote, so they are just racking up RC thats never going to be used. Would like to be able to give that to someone who would actually make use of it.

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Delegated Resource Credits is coming, do not ask me when! :D

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Why does everyone want to send RC and not transfer it? I feel like RC transfers might be more useful.

Another very useful tool is something like SteemPeak which lets you control how strong your vote is. For example, unless it's something I really like, or someone I know and wanna support, my voting strength is usually 30-50%. This can help extend our your resource credits longer.

It's great to see users and groups on here helping newbies and those starved for resources some help! It can be rather hard to get over that initial "starvation" period.

It’s a really nice gesture @gtg.
And it even better when I see day after day that there are people who do everything in their power to strengthen the community. Hats off.

I try to help those with RC’s problems as well. They seem “forgotten” but if you check the introduce yourself tag, you will see one introduction every half hour, while a few months back there were hundreds every day.

RC’s is a problem for newcomers and we must all help. Resteemed of course!
Have a great week

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Thank you!
I remember days when I was actively curating #introduceyourself category. I was able to read ALL posts there. Of course welcoming, upvoting, etc. Manually.
I'm still trying to keep an eye on the #introduceyourself channel on the Steem Chat.
It's a kind of effort-filter similar to one that I applied to my current promo. I mean it's easy to add a tag to a post while searching for exposure, but going to chat requires some more effort. Effort for active users is not a stopper, that's why I would love to see some gamification based incentives separated from money (risk of greed biased actions).

I liked and I very much liked reading this publication, it seems to me in a good way what you will be doing with the new account of steemit.

Thanks a lot for upvoting my post 'Help for New Users'. With your upvote and the comment of @gadrian I recognized your initiative. I will make a P.S. to my post and lead to this post here, if you agree.

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Sure, thanks.

Anything that can be done to help new users is certainly welcomed @gtg!

We are seeking guests to interview on our weekly talk show Wednesday night if
you'd be interested in chatting with us! "Ma1ne & Snekky" show airs on Mspwaves.com Wednesday's at 10pm utc, and we chat using Discord. It would be great to interview you sometime!

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Thanks for invitation, unfortunately due to chronic lack of time and my schedules I really prefer more asynchronous ways of communications. Also I have to honestly admit that I'm avoiding Discord as much as I can (with few exceptions like once in a while taking a part in @aggroed witness panels (mostly as a lurker, sometimes only chatting a bit)). However, once I succeed with Making Steem Chat Great Again you can expect more of my presence (mostly to drag people back to chat ;-) )

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Wonderful, well I certainly do appreciate you taking the time to answer @gtg! Thanks for doing all that you do to help support the Steem Community! Feel free to check out the show sometime if you'd like, it's on my @Ma1neEvent profile. Take care!

Hello @gtg. I think this is fantastic what you are doing for the new accounts and hope they follow your instructions.

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Time will tell. Honestly I have some doubts. Intentionally procedure is slightly complex to get rid of some low effort, easily automated attempts. It's not enough to just write "Sign me up!". But it's easily doable by anyone who can read. It just needs a little bit of time and effort.

Support for beginners is very beautiful
I got support from you when I was starting here
You are a great and successful person. Thank you for the wonderful information
You are all my greetings, my friend

I was lucky to find many people who supported me at the beginning. This will be a great help for many newbies and users who dont understand the platform yet. Keep up the good work :)

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I would love to see more ELI5 tutorials.


(Old and inaccurate nowadays but really awesome)

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Awww, it's Jane and George Jetson, right? :D

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Looks like them, but I don't know their IDs ;-)

Engagement is something we feel is necessary, so upvoted by @blockbrothers

Good evening! As so as I joined to Steem community just a couple weeks before HF20 I can say that old version of SP I liked more. I joined to Steemit and I want to have possibility to be active and feel free answering to comments to my posts and don't look after my RC after every comment. I want to feel free while sharing my thoughts and maybe sometimes photos which I think enough unique to be published. And I think all newbies would like to have this chance. So I would like to have more SP even if it will be delegated. And I think it's normal to all social active people. And of course I will try to be nominated to list for delegtions. So that's my opinion. Thanks.

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Very interesting for our growth, for how to get this, I've been working as much as I can to get the best out of my future,

Hi @gtg, hope you are well, funny i launched something very similar for the hispanic users.

You can see it here

I would be interested in speaking with you, a mutual friend keeps telling me i should get in touch with you.

Where can i find you ? (If you want to be found)

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Hi @nnnarvaez, I'm on a steem.chat as Gandalf. Also I'm going to the #steemfest. :-)

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