Steem Marketcap Of $25B Is Absurd: I Say Bulls**t

3년 전

They say there is a fine line between genius and crazy. When it comes to steem, I have been riding that like Ginger Lynn in her prime (for those who understand that reference, you are candidates for the Vice Token).

Some people seem to take exception with my analysis of the steem blockchain. That is okay. The challenge many people have is that they are looking at this based upon their experiences in other financial areas. Currency is a completely different animal from stock and bonds. Since few deal in that arena, most do not realize how big a world it really is. At the same time, people are accustomed to the idea of companies making money online yet they do not grasp the concept of a blockchain protocol having the value. Again, we are dealing with a different animal.

Before going any further, I have to state that I am bullish on BTC and believe that some of the forecasts people put out are possible. I can definitely see it as a $40,000 coin by the end of 2018. Please keep this in mind as I proceed through my thought process on steem knowing that I am not coming at this as one who thinks BTC is cooked.

The other day it was announced that steem now has its' own auction house called Steembay. I wrote a post about it which you can read if you missed it.

This morning @Steembay put out an update about what took place the last couple days. I will highlight a couple points so here is the link to read the full article yourself.

I am very excited for one simple reason: it is commerce. While I feel the cruation/reward system that is in the steem protocol is amazing and will revolutionize the content creation world, having actual commerce moves the steem blockchain into an entire different realm.

Ebay is a $37 billion company that is really little more than an auction house. It is a very traditional model that they moved into the digital world and excelled at. Steembay is looking to take that same concept and apply it to the blockchain. According to the article, there are already 50 auctions running, which is sensational.

Now I admit I am not an Ebay person, so I had to look up some costs with them. Going to (stop the people go there too) I learned the listing price for an auction from $.01 to $200 range from 10 cents to $2.00. Using some advanced mathematical skills, that equates to 1%-25% of the proceeds going to Ebay. Not a bad deal for them.

In the comments on that post, I got a reply from @steembay:

The last time, my wife used ebay, it was an item sold at 45$ with all the charges and the paypal fee she endet up with mere 30$
Sounded like a bad deal for me... this was the initial moment for this project ;-)

Bad deal for him, great deal for the Wall Street traded Ebay. Of course, we all know this is the norm. Ebay takes a piece of every auction from average individuals and became a $37 billion company. Steembay is a FREE service on the steem blockchain. Yes you read that right. The cost to use Steembay is ZERO. It costs nothing. So if you are going to auction of a $30 item, do you think Ebay or Steembay offers a better value (yes I know the number of people bidding on Ebay at the moment gives it a leg up....but that might be temporary)? Time will tell but it is possible for Steembay to cut into the $37B marketcap that Wall Street assigned Ebay.

So based upon this, do you think that this one app could, eventually, add a few billion dollars in marketcap to steem? Even 5% of the market would equate to almost $2B which is about 9 times what steem is at the moment.

Which brings me back to Bitcoin. The granddaddy of all cryptocurrencies has a market cap of $137B according to Bitcoin is revolutionary and will only get bigger. While there are challenges of scaling and the costs are rather high per transaction, they are still minimal compared to what the banking establishment charges especially internationally. It is not uncommon for an international transaction to 2nd world countries to cost as much as 30% (and we thought EBay fees were excessive). This is one of the major selling points of Bitcoin. Decentralized-low cost, open transactions anywhere in the world versus an expensive, corrupt banking cartel controlling all money transfers is the decision people are confronted with.

Moving money around is big business. Focusing upon the auction market again, we see that more than 75% of Ebay's transactions are handled by Paypal, a company they once owned. Paypal is the largest online payment system in the world. For all of Ebay's success in garnering a $37B marketcap, Paypal is worth $93B; more than 2.5 times the size of Ebay. Like Visa, Paypal has amassed a fortune handling payments, something that opened the door for Bitcoin.

Sadly, Bitcoin's challenges with scaling created debate as to which currency will end up being "money". Transaction time and cost are the two variables that are important in this realm. As of now, Bitcoin is just too slow to handle it. Even the ICO king, ethereum, with its' $33B market cap is challenged in this way. While 25 transactions per second is better than BTC, it is hardly the answer.

Therefore, the winner in this realm will be the one who has a lightening quick network that can handle millions of transactions per minute at a minimal cost. Whatever currency can pull this off will be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Will it be ZCash? Monero? Will Charlie Lee breakthrough and become the silver to Bitcoin's gold (never bet against Charlie Lee by the way)? Might we see Bitcoin get its act together to ultimately add this feature to its status as a holder of wealth?

Sorry, for the interruption. I just checked my wallet and I was sent .001 steem which is worth about .00092 of a cent. Can you believe someone sent me 9 1/100 of a cent? I will try not to spend that all in one area.

Wait a second....someone sent me 9 1/100 of a cent! Try to send that amount of Bitcoin. Or Litecoin. Or Ether. See what the fees do to you. I sent $10 yesterday of Bitcoin and it ended up costing me almost $12. Holy crap Batman. Do you see it? Everyone keeps talking about a fast, low cost network to handle money transactions. We can go one better.

Steem is a lightening fast, NO COST network. You can send any amount of steem without a transaction charge. @Steembay auctioned off something for $45 and received $30 after he paid all the fees to Ebay, Paypal, and whomever else took a slice of the pie. On the steem network, using his creation, there is no fee for the auction AND NO FEE for the buyer to transfer the steem. It is a zero cost transaction. Do you realize how big that is?

$92B for Paypal
$37B for Ebay
$252B for Visa
$500B for FB
$25B for Reddit
$20B for Twitter
$100B for Youtube (estimated)

Now bear in mind I am not saying this is what will happen; simply that it is possible. When you look at the marketcaps of these companies which operate in the arenas were there is an alternative on the steem network, can you see how I laugh when someone says there is no way this could end up with a $25B marketcap? It is absurd to think that is a high valuation. Hell, even ETH with its whopping 25 transactions per second is worth $33B at the present moment. Does ETH really have anything on Steem other than publicity? Even if it does, what about Bitcoin Cash and its' $25B marketcap? Does anyone really think an 8MB block version of Bitcoin suddenly puts it in the realm of Paypal or Visa?

So tell me again how a few whales circle voting to enrich themselves is going to destroy everything. Are you f**king kidding me? Step back and see the proverbial forest through the trees. There is a lot going on with this blockchain and that is what matters in this arena. Forget the price of the steem token. The price will take off once it gets some publicity from speculators. Now please note this is different from marketing. The publicity I am referring to only comes after excitement is created by the developments on a blockchain. This is what lures investors in because they see the potential for appreciation. However, before that happens, there needs to be enough development to attract those people. We are starting to see that on this blockchain.

Please remember this post the next time someone starts complaining about steem and that is has no chance of appreciating past a certain point. There is $5T worth of currency traded on a daily basis. $80T a year is conducted in business around the world. The banking/financial industry is worth trillions. Social media is a trillion dollar industry.

Therefore, do not tell me that $25B for steem is absurd. It is absurd to think that is not possible.

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Good post. Upvoted and resteemed despite thinking of some of your points as BS. First one is obviously, BTC won't become a big deal. Dash is the Paypal killer and Lightning Network is an off chain semi-centralized attack vector that's just an over complicated InstantSend feature used in Dash and PIVX.

I do believe STEEM will overtake BTC marketcap within 3 probably even 2 years. I do believe in steemit very much. But there will be competition. We may see upto 250 billion marketcap within the next 5 years. 25 Billion is just inevitable.


Thanks for the resteem and your replay @vimkukthi.

Also, thank you for the idea for another post. Basically, I put my answer in a post espousing why I believe it is dangerous to think that bitcoin wont be a big deal in a couple years.

I hope you dont mind me quoting you in a post.


Go ahead. Intellectual debate is never a bad thing.


post with very much information that doesn't have so good luck

Great post. It really does summarize the potential of Steem very well.

ok friend
upvote and resteem :)

Another great post!

Definitely going to have to look into steembay. I sell on eBay right now. eBay fees are ludicrous. It’s only a matter of time before competition overwhelms them!

Every time I read your posts @taskmaster4450 it makes me want to go out and buy more steem.

I can't tonight because it's raining too heavily. But I will buy more tomorrow when the rain stops.

Happily riding along with your predictions. Looks like we're heading in the same direction.


Thank you for that but dont make any decisions based upon what I say. I am here only explaining what I find as I delve down the rabbit hole of Steem....

As you can guess, I am very bullish on Steem overall.


Don't worry. I have read the small print, the big print and the in-between print.

I'm only squeezing my piggy bank just a little bit. It isn't squealing too loudly yet 😊

hello thanks for sharing this i like it

  ·  3년 전

Another thing to keep in mind is that there are a lot of people sitting on huge gains in their crypto currency portfolios. Converting these gains into fiat to use for "real" items may alert the tax collector. The ability to purchase actual goods bypassing fiat could really take off. It's like getting a 20-50% discount.


Spot on. The regulators seem to be putting cryptos in the security category which means capital gains taxes.

Hence if one can simply buy good, it is harder for those agencies to go after them. Of course, the legality of it is that one is still responsible for the tax but harder to pinpoint.

That is why atomic swaps are so interesting...poof, it is gone.

Your Posts are great ! !

The road we are crossing is the road that will bring us wealth

thanks for sharing this i like it