Fun with Flags

3년 전

Flagging is the least effective way of affecting the rewards pool allocation.

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"What is a flag?"

It is actually an upvote... but the other way around ;-)
Much in the same way as you get an upvote, which is by default a 100% vote, you can get a flag, which is a -100% vote.

"Why did someone flag my post?"

There could be many reasons.
Here are just some of them:

  • Your post is in a wrong category or you have used wrong tags, or at least the user who flagged your post thinks so.
  • Your post is not yours (plagiarism), or at least the user who flagged you thinks so.
  • Your post is considered spam, or at least the user who flagged you thinks so.
  • Your post is overvalued, or at least the user who flagged you thinks so.
  • Your post is undervalued, but the user who flagged you does not know how to upvote.
  • Your post is so bad that another user could not resist and flagged you.
  • Your post is so good that another user was jealous and flagged you.
  • Your post contains photos of cute kittens.
  • Your post does not contain photos of cute kittens.
  • The user who flagged your post has a secret reason.
  • The user who flagged your post does not have any reason.
  • The user who flagged you has a bad day.
  • The user who flagged you has a good day and loves flagging others.
  • The user who flagged you does not like you.
  • Nobody likes the user who flagged you.
  • Nobody likes you, but the user who flagged you was the only one honest enough to flag you.
  • The user who flagged your post is @asshole or just an asshole.

Users do not have to upvote your posts, users do not have to have a reason to upvote your posts. Much in the same way, users do not have to have a reason to flag your post.

"What should I do about it?"

Nothing.
Unless you believe that someone had good reason to flag your post.
In that case, you should change your behavior.
Unless you do not want to.
Then do not.

"You said that flagging is the least effective way of affecting the rewards pool allocation. So what is more effective?"

RTFM for Steem’s sake!
Upvote valuable content.


(*) "Fun with Flags" is an online vodcast featured on The Big Bang Theory which Sheldon Cooper hosts on the subject of vexillology, the study of flags. Picture from the show.

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ok i actually died. i love sheldon

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Nobody likes you, but the user who flagged you was the only one honest enough to flag you.

LOL, that explains a lot!

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Maybe the problem is that there are people who don't like themselves, but they are flagging other people instead (I think the shrinks call that "projection").

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Hmmmmm.... I've never thrown a flag, but it's not because i really like myself, i just care for others. Good insight though. No matter what happens around them, some will always be negative it seems. Thanks!

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You have to love yourself first in order to love others. Anything else is dominance or submission masquerading as love.

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:))) indeed!

Pretty good analysis.
My new saying is that Steemit is the Wild West. Get used to being attacked by flag bandits. Some of the bandits see themselves as Robin Hood robbing for the greater good. Some punish the naughty. And some just rob for the fun of it.
There's no Sherriff in town. There's no court to get justice.
If you want to live in the Wild West Steemland then put aside the idea that life should be fair and you will be more content.

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I’ve always followed my father’s advice: he told me, first to always keep my word and second, to never insult anybody unintentionally. If I insult you, you can be goddamn sure I intend to. And, third, he told me not to go around looking for trouble.
Wayne, John

I was going to flag this, but I'm new, so I got confused and upvoted instead.

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Really funny.

flagged for no cute kittens... now I could get behind that LOL

I first laughed when I remembered that episode and then I thought O goodness something else that can happen to me - if Steemit is not already scaring me enough and since I am new so scared I do something wrong...but thanks for the update - I like the reasons - a lot like life - not everybody can like you and it is not your problem

Nice one @gtg, you make flag look like nothing making fun out of it COOL
you make me feel sorry for those who are flaggeing without a reson

aaand you win the blockchainz today!

Thank you good advice my brother @gtg
We hope not to use flog. In good content by some members. Because use flog. Things may increase with some members

Flagging is the least effective way of affecting the rewards pool allocation.
RTFM for Steem’s sake!
Upvote valuable content.

much as i hate to pimp my own posts, this is simply untrue. Downvoting is far more mathematically effective. A possible exception might be when there are other posts, paid as much as or more than the post you believe is over paid, that you believe deserve more than they currecntly have.

And even then, to get them the money you would have to take money from all posts, not just the overvalued one.

https://steemit.com/til/@sigmajin/til-the-best-strategy-for-reducing-rewards-disparity-in-defense-of-the-flag-part-i

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Don't be so serious on a #fun post dude ;)

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lol i missed that tag

EDIT -- LOL, i also read the first four bulleted reasons, assumed they were all standard and missed the funny ones.

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much as i hate to pimp my own posts

Why? It is a good post with great educational role.
But here it is about something different.
(And certainly nothing about #fun, right?) :-)

Mathematically? It is same:
-(x rshares) +(x rshares) = 0 rshares
(also impact on borderline case is exactly same)
There is just a difference in effect you are going to achieve.
And yes, for case described in your post you are right.

Maybe I didn't express myself well for the sake of fun theme.
Maybe "mind your own upvotes" (1) would be a better banner.
"Overpaid" is just a subjective feeling about potential payout.

What if we would care too much about it?
User X checks posts A, B, C and adjust potential payout.
User Y checks posts A, B, C and adjust potential payout.
User X see, that after user Y actions, posts A, B and C has subjectively "wrong" potential payout amounts.
In the meantime user Z adjusts potential payout for A, B and C according to his own feelings.

Thing is, that we are going to have millions of posts daily.
Now imagine armies of control freaks trying to enforce exact payout for all posts.
Most effective (as in my view on what we should be trying to achieve) is to put that effort to find valuable content in our own fields of interest.

(1) a bit a lot of my own hypocrisy here ;-) While I have never flagged anyone (yet) there are some borderline cases that I am glad were flagged. Trolls and spammers are hidden because someone spent time and effort and flagged them and I am glad it does not have to be me.

Anyway, in this post I am trying to smuggle an idea (among others) that people have their own sole right of their +/- vote disposition.

Do not spoil the mood! ;-)

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"Overpaid" is just a subjective feeling about potential payout.

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I missed the "fun" tag.
--captain buzzkill

that said

Mathematically? It is same:
-(x rshares) +(x rshares) = 0 rshares

Not quite. Because payout is based on vshares, not Rshares.

I totally agree @gtg this post is a diamond because it is full of truths, people strive to make a post and what they receive in return are flags of bitter, angry, ignorant, envious people. Thanks for this post 👏👏👏👍☝

@gtg you rock buddy! Hope you are keeping well.

Haha fun with flags. Why isn't Sheldon on Steemit, that would be awesome

Your post is undervalued, but the user who flagged you does not know how to upvote.

That explains a lot!!! :-D Thanks for the laugh. Great post!
PS: I somehow missed it 21 days ago, but furtunately @mammasitta reblogged it now.

They accidentally hit the flag as a new Steemian and did not know it causing thirty-seven authors to kill themselves when their posts were worth S4.7 billion dollars combined

Good to know

Ja ja ja love the name of this blog!

you should post about it on other sites and get the word out about the scam that is steemit and the censorship that goes on here.
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/681743255410319373

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Up here, children, you could see one of the largest collector of flags. His passion and devotion for flags is exceptional.
For educational purposes he pretends to be skeptic about steemit and posts a comment about being censored, ironically proving this way that it is not true.
That link about his love-hate relationship with @berniesanders is seemingly off-topic but if you take a closer look you could notice his appreciation for a lot of fine crafted flags in his collection.

Well done. thanks for sharing this.

Thanks for explaining this mechanic a bit! I upvote, but from what I understand it is "expensive" to flag so I try to just be sparing/highly critical with my upvotes.

I RTFM, it just takes some mulling over :)