AI learns to play Flappy Bird - the impact of machine learning on Steem Blockchain

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Why do we even need machine learning?

Computers are undoubtedly powerful devices. They can flawlessly perform operations and calculations that are unimaginable for our brains. For example, only one line of code and couple of milliseconds are sufficient to calculate a square root of 281,961.

However, there are also operations that are effortless for our minds while extremely complicated for computers. For example, speech recognition, which does not cause any problem for 5 years old human child, while Google spends millions of dollars in order to improve their technology in this area.

Imagine what would happen if we could combine the powerful neural structure of our brain and the efficiency of machines. Humanity has been trying to implement this idea into reality for generations, but only the last century enabled the necessary technology to do that. Arthur Samuel defined the concept of machine learning for the first time in 1959:

Field of study that gives computers the ability to learn without being explicitly programmed

My idea

I decided to go a step further in my AI development and create something based on machine learning algorithms. In the past I really enjoyed playing Flappy Bird, so I thought it would be awesome to create an AI that will beat my high score easily.

Flappy Bird is not so complicated, as the only decision the AI would need to make is whether to perform a jump or not. Therefore, I decided to use the simplest possible neural network - a perceptron. In other words, a computational representation of a single neuron. Similarly to the real one it is provided with some input values and contains a processing unit, which generates an output accordingly.

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I came up with the following idea:

  • Create 15 birds, each controlled by a single perceptron
  • If bird dies, its perceptron improves itself (machine learning)
  • If there are no birds alive, create a new generation of improved birds
  • Repeat process until there is a non-beatable player

Here you can check out the results:

The future of Steem

As you could notice, 15 seconds of learning were sufficient to crate a neural network that overtakes probably every human playing this game. In my previous article about our fear of AI I raised an issue of job loss from AI. However, I have recently noticed that the employment market may not be the only thing affected by its development.

Recently a friend of mine asked, if it would be possible to create an AI analyzing trending posts on Steem blockchain and then creating its own articles accordingly. This vision really blew my mind.

There are already AI algorithms that are able to create their own artworks. For instance, a computer-generated Portrait of Edmond Belamy that surpassed the pre-auction estimates, which valued it at a maximum of $10,000, instead being sold for incredible $432,500.

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This only proves that people have a huge expectations if it comes to the AI development in the most creative sectors, perhaps even in art. And obviously they are willing to invest enormous amount of money in order to achieve their vision. It is just a matter of time when AI will have more and more successful attempts and will become a fully fledged painter, musician or writer.

But what would be the impact of such algorithms on Steem Blockchain? After all, the price of Steem is determined by the intellectual value of contents published here. What if this value dropped to zero, as every computer in the world would be capable of generating outstanding articles? There would be no more point in paying human authors, including those on Steem.

On the other hand, AI may never achieve the human level of creativity and unconventional thinking. Its articles may be too schematic, linear and lacking of individualism to read them comfortably. I would be glad to hear your opinion on this topic!

Here is a Github repository with source code for anyone interested.

Check out my other articles about AI:

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Dear @neavvy and @everyone else :)

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Thank you for sharing this link with me. Obviously resteemed already.

For example, speech recognition, which does not cause any problem for 5 years old human child, while Google spends millions of dollars in order to improve their technology in this area.

I wasnt aware that speach recognition is giving AI so much trouble. Interesting ...

Recently a friend of mine asked, if it would be possible to create an AI analyzing trending posts on Steem blockchain and then creating its own articles accordingly.

That would surely be still quite difficult to achieve. To create interesting publication -> it would actually require loads of creativity. Something AI lack.

But at the same time it would be so easy to use AI as an "assistant". It could easily learn our writing style, analyze content on Steemit and dro short but valuable comments. That would absolutely fool majority of people out there. After all many users still seem to have difficulties recognizing simple bots (I've seen people replying to them, thinking those accounts belong to humans).

Personally I'm worried and quite convinced, that within few years from now social media (as an industry) will be dominated by users supported by AI.

What do guys think about that issue?

Cheers
Piotr

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I am 100% percent shareing the opinion of Elen Musk to be honest.
There will be no happy ending of this story for sure. But hope this is still far. Or somehow we should manage this.

Example i dont know 😂 Maybe to use a fingerprint and voice password or i dont know😁

But to be honest i am really not happy for this whole AI stuff.

By the way steem is starting to became more and more investment friendly crypto. I think nowdays the posts are not that much important that before for steem. If i just check how much money they wager every day in the new apps and i compare it with the posts pay out i dont know.

I hope we stay far from all these AI stuff but if not there is always another option how to manage. The human brain is still much better than the computers in many ways. But we just use a very small percent of that😉

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AI can be like watching a train on its road to destruction, i also am a firm believer that once ‘skynet’ becomes self aware, humanity is fucked. Musk says about the same thing, but (i think it was in his talk with joe rogan) where he also stated that we are still on the crossroad, it can still go in two directions, and otherwise, i think we should merge ... if you can’t beat them, join them. Musk btw also stated that they are very far into introducing new developed tech ....

Further i’d like to add @crypto.piotr that ai is already a lot further then many people realize .... and there are several blockchain based projects busy with it ... one of them, who recently published a very interesting and amazing article for usage of their blockchain based ai and medical .... https://medium.com/@matrixainetwork/what-the-tech-matrix-ai-server-medical-diagnosis-services-f6146971f164

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Dear @elektropunkz

AI can be like watching a train on its road to destruction

Thats quite a gloomy view of our future.

Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

Also big thx for that link.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Thank you for your reply @gabbynhice!

Example i dont know 😂 Maybe to use a fingerprint and voice password or i dont know😁

This is at leas some conception :)

By the way steem is starting to became more and more investment friendly crypto. I think nowdays the posts are not that much important that before for steem.

That's true. Also the price of Steem has increased by 28% during recent 7 days. Incredible.

I hope we stay far from all these AI stuff but if not there is always another option how to manage. The human brain is still much better than the computers in many ways. But we just use a very small percent of that😉

To be honest it is still much better than any computer in the world. If it comes to mathematical operations and remembering a lot of data we are maybe behind, but I think it will take a long time before computer achieve our level of creativity and consciousness :)

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Yep i hope that the price will grow in the near future but i am afraid that many people start to cash out they money if that happens. We will need much more dapss to keep the price in a good level.

And yes this is our advantage the creativity. And i am 100% sure as a part of evolution we will be always better and better.
I really dont want to live in a world like in the movie Terminator😂
So even i am worry to be honest because of these new kind of robots with AI but i am sure we as a humans we always find a solution to manage this. Sometimes lil bit later but we make it😊

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Dear @gabbynhice

I hope we stay far from all these AI stuff but if not there is always another option how to manage.

Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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I think that AI is a great tool and more the better

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You are right @master-set, as a tool it is definitely amazing :)

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As far as I can tell, Siri, Cortana, and Google Assistant collectively don’t have the intelligence to compete with my two year old. I have far more meaningful chats with the baby than I can with any of these robots.

I know the day will come when chatting with a robot is more satisfying than with our fellow humans, but we are not there yet. For the moment, I’m choosing the two year old over some distant robotic big brother whose responses are all so predictable.

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Thank you for your reply @swissclive :)

I have far more meaningful chats with the baby than I can with any of these robots.

Yes, voice assistants aren't unfortunately well developed yet.

For the moment, I’m choosing the two year old over some distant robotic big brother whose responses are all so predictable.

Thats really great decision. I suppose that taking with your child will always be more satisfying choice :)

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hi @swissclive

I didn't hear from you in a while. I'm glad you're still around :)

I have far more meaningful chats with the baby than I can with any of these robots.

That's true. But all those AI can collect, analyze and transfer data very fast and this is real issue here. We won't be able to compete with anything that isn't creative. Creativity is our only advantage.

Cheers
Piotr

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There are some things about AI that really concern me, but I feel that we are still a LONG way off from being in an iRobot kind of world where the robots will take over. I mean, have you used Siri, or any of the other "voice helpers"? LOL. I am not worried, YET... LOL. As far as writing their own articles, I mean I can see where that will one day be possible, but I think that for a LONG time, you will seriously be able to tell if a computer wrote an article or if a human did. Like you can tell when instructions on a chinese product are Google translated, lol, it is completely obvious. So in my mind the only way that the machines can take over, is if the sheep of the world stay asleep and let it happen and don't actually try to think for themselves. THAT IS WHAT I AM WORRIED MOST ABOUT! The human species becoming the AI and doing whatever their TV programming or mainstream social media group tells them to do.

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Humans have been obeying the TV for decades.. Check out the movie "Network".. :)

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True @yestermorrow, but consider that there are constantly more and more ways of mass communication. 20 years ago it was only TV, while nowadays we also have all social media stuff..

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I am aware of this. I've been speaking of AI recently among certain groups that I not at liberty to divulge here. AI's certainly have a bright future ahead of them, but not in the way most people are going to expect. Time will tell...

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What are your expectations @yestermorrow?

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Thank you for amazing reply @thelogicaldude

So in my mind the only way that the machines can take over, is if the sheep of the world stay asleep and let it happen and don't actually try to think for themselves.

That's really big problem. In my opinion mass media and internet enabled a enormous ability to manipulate and control people around the world. And this situation can only get worse in the future. For example, there are already plenty of examples of winning elections just because of successful campaign on social media, based on manipulating people.

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Dear @thelogicaldude

you will seriously be able to tell if a computer wrote an article or if a human did

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that it can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Great comment. Thank you and sorry for such a late reply. Finally I'm catching up with Steemit (past few days has been very busy and messy).

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Hi @crypto.piotr
great to see/hear from you. I was not really active lately but came back :)
In my opinion you don't have to be scared AI dominating social media. In my opinion the concept of social media is that people can connect with other human beeings, sharing their interests, ideas and having great conversations. AI might join social media, but people might leave and find something else. Because the true benefit is that you can exchange personal realtionsships.
It may happen that people will have more face to face contact again.

I hope you are doing good!
Best,
M

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Thank you for your reply @mcnestler!

I was not really active lately but came back :)

I'm glad to hear that :)

It may happen that people will have more face to face contact again.

That's interesting and very probable scenario. People indeed may leave social media if they will no longer be able to recognize human from AI. However, this would be the end of Steem...

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Dear @mcnestler

In my opinion the concept of social media is that people can connect with other human beeings, sharing their interests, ideas and having great conversations.

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that it can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

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Great comment. Thank you and sorry for such a late reply. Finally I'm catching up with Steemit (past few days has been very busy and messy).

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction

haha that comment made my day :)
you are totally right, but I think in case AI dominates the social media another thing will evolve.
Maybe platforms that detect AI and will not give permission. Old platforms might integrate it or will slowly die out, but that is our economy.
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers,
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Dear @mcnestler

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haha that comment made my day :)

I'm glad I could make your day hahaha :)

Also ... I've small but good news :)

I managed to get you 100 SP delegation from Mariusfebruary (he delegated already something around 10k to people from our little community and I'm in touch with him on daily basis)

Check out his account. Almost 600k SP. And he also delegated 5k to me saying that he like what we're trying to achieve. Isn't great to attract attention of serious players in the hood? :)

ps.
I also would like to ask you for little favor. Every week I'm sending few thousands memos and sometimes I'm setting small steem-bounty on selected posts. I'm spending average 10-15 steem a week and I cannot do that for very long time.

I decided that I will keep posting one publication a week and all rewards from this post will be used in following week on promoting others people content (memos / steem-bounties). Would you help me to make things happen? :)

I would like you to consider setting auto-vote with 100% voting power on my account. Again, I'm posting only once a week so I will not drain your voting power.

https://steemvoter.com/

I hope to get several other people on board of this little project. And let's assume that you can also keep my own small delegation as long as you need (or as long as we work together :P).

Cheers
Piotr

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Hey there @crypto.piotr thank you very much :)

I managed to get you 100 SP delegation from Mariusfebruary (he delegated already something around 10k to people from our little community and I'm in touch with him on daily basis)

I mean wauw :P You are a real hero to me! First time that my vote is worth something :D. Your kindness and your effort to grow this community is insane. Respect for that.

I also would like to ask you for little favor

Dude, no problem. I always upvote your posts + I also try to react on every memo you send to me. There is no need to automate it since I check steemit most of the time on a daily basis. I also check out what you are doing so everyting is fine.

I wish you an awesome weekend! Keep up the good work buddy :P

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Do you know this song buddy? :)

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Hahahaha, touché!!!

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it would actually require loads of creativity. Something AI lack.

But at the same time it would be so easy to use AI as an "assistant"

By learning from people's writing styles, it could end up learning how to create interesting publications. It could look up trending topics from google, buffer them from news sites like bbc and cnn, spin those articles, adapt them to writing styles of different authors, then post them on steemit.

In my opinion, this is not even hard to do - nor it would actually require artificial intelligence, although it could get beefed up with some.

However, I'm not convinced social media will be dominated by AI simply because it's a lot cheaper to employ humans instead in this case.

Last but not least, here's a video of MarI/O - Machine Learning for Video Games, by SethBling

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Thank you for amazing reply @felipejoys :)

It could look up trending topics from google, buffer them from news sites like bbc and cnn, spin those articles, adapt them to writing styles of different authors, then post them on steemit.

It sounds easy, but I am not sure if it is so in fact. Such algorithm would need to somehow understand the meaning of the words in order to manage them properly, as it should change words in the article without changing the context. Obviously it could just use synonyms, but I think it would be not enough.

In order to make the text sound naturally, it would need to have some sort of intuition. I am not think if it is possible with the current level of AI development.

Last but not least, here's a video of MarI/O - Machine Learning for Video Games, by SethBling

That's really interesting, thank you for sharing.

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It sounds easy, but I am not sure if it is so in fact.

The fakenews below was written by an AI:

“Hillary Clinton and George Soros are a perfect match, and their agenda appears to be to create a political movement where Soros and his political machine and Clinton are two of the only major players. This is the first time Soros and Clinton have been caught on tape directly colluding in promoting the same false narrative. One of the key revelations in the leaked audio was Clinton's admission to a Russian banker that she knew about the Uranium One deal before it was approved by Congress. Clinton was shown sharing the same talking points that were originally drafted by a Fusion GPS contractor hired by an anti-Trump Republican donor. The leaked audio is the clearest evidence yet that the Clinton campaign and the Hillary Foundation colluded with Fusion GPS to manufacture propaganda against President Trump.”

The AI Text Generator That's Too Dangerous to Make Public

I only just came across this article, but it reflects my previous comment.

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The fakenews below was written by an AI

Really frightening @felipejoys. Take a look on this Obama speech which is also generated by AI:

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That is also terrifying!!

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Dear @felipejoys

By learning from people's writing styles, it could end up learning how to create interesting publications.

Indeed. But that may be still difficult.

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that it can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

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Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way?

I can see people using "bot comments" to fool the competition into thinking people want their products a certain way when they actually don't, therefore ruining their business by tricking them into pushing a product that won't sell.

But I don't see how realistic bot comments will make a person make money. People who earn with engagement need humans to do that, not bots. They want customer leads, monetization through ads, sample real opinions through polls, upvotes when it comes to steemit, etc.

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Dear @felipejoys

I would like to thank you for your previous comment. I only had a chance to read it now. I very much appreciate that you're so responsive.

Cheers
Piotr

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AI would be very good on games like steemmonsters I guess. And if it coukd write good comments then dlike.io would be good for it

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What do you mean by implementation of AI in games like steemmonsters? I have never played it, but I guess it is rather about cards you own, luck and a small dose of tactics (like in case of the most card games). I am not sure what would be the implementation of AI in this area, but maybe you have some idea @beco132? :)

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It's about building the strongest team out of the cards you own. The success depends on the rules (changing with every battle) and the team your opponent uses. I think AI can keep track of which cards work best for any given conditions and build unbeatable teams

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I think AI can keep track of which cards work best for any given conditions and build unbeatable teams

That's really great idea @beco132

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Thank you for your comment @beco132

Appreciate it.

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Personally I'm worried and quite convinced, that within few years from now social media (as an industry) will be dominated by users supported by AI.

I personally feel..... In the weirdest ways... it has already begun.... Look at those propaganda skewed comments... sometimes it really do not sound like an organic troll on a certain skewed comment on certain issues....

Which is specially set to misled public (humans) reading...

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Which "propaganda skewed comments" do you mean @littlenewthings?

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You may be right @littlenewthings.

It has already begun. Are we doomed? :) Hope not :)

Cheers
Piotr

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That would surely be still quite difficult to achieve. To create interesting publication -> it would actually require loads of creativity. Something AI lack.

I recommend you checking https://archillect.com/ it's basically an AI that scouts the net in search of visually appealing images and videos. It has a taste of it's own.

I also recommend checking https://deepjazz.io/ for reconsidering about AI's creativity.

All in all no one creates anything nowadays, everything is a remix, so AI are fostering their creativity by ultimately copying, mashing up and rendering what has already been done. Just like us :) 😁✌

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Thank you for sharing those super interesting links @greencross. I am definitely going to check them out :)

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you are welcome! @neavvy

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Thanks for dropping by @greencross and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

Also big thx for sharing that link with us. Will check it our right away :)

Cheers, Piotr

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You are very welcome, and no worries about the late reply :)

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There are also people replying to bots for an other reason.. its not only because they think they are real humans. I forgot the reason given but it did made sense to me plus: a comment is a comments and you get points for it as well!

Bots are voting too. Also something you can question. Would a human being vote for the same post as the bot is doing in its name?

Face recognition is a big issue as well.

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Thank you for your constant support @wakeupkitty :)

Bots are voting too. Also something you can question. Would a human being vote for the same post as the bot is doing in its name?

Bots are definitely not developed enough to properly evaluate content. The best example of that is the biggest Steem communities like Utopian-io or Steemstem still using human curators in order ot evaluate content.

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Your welcome.
I hope people will vote themselves and our world will not change in what we see in 'Real human' etc

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Thank you for your reply @wakeupkitty

Yes, in my opinion those visions presented in action movies are a bit steeped, but we definitely need to beware.

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Those are very valid points @wakeupkitty

it did made sense to me plus: a comment is a comments and you get points for it as well!

Bots already are doing simple commands. Imagine how much "easier" it will be for those who will use AI to build their presence on social media. Those that will not be using AI will probably not be able to "compete".

Cheers
Piotr

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Thanks Piotr for your call or I would have lost this nice article.
I don’t know much of the guts of AI but it should be a must to build them with a “switch off button” if things go out of control.
It will be also possible to use AI on Steemit as a sort of “guardian” fighting other AIs or spam-bots, aren’t we the creators ? Should we put the necessary means to put things under control.
About the jobs drop I think machines should pay for all those fired. We humans need to stop those huge greedy Companies and individuals who really control the world to bleed us freely. If they want more profits taking apart human issues to produce more they must pay the bill of those who are left behind. Who is going to pay for the products if there is no money?

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Thank you for your comment @drakernoise

it should be a must to build them with a “switch off button” if things go out of control.

That's definitely great idea. Hope that they will not find a method to disable this button :)

It will be also possible to use AI on Steemit as a sort of “guardian” fighting other AIs or spam-bots

There are already bots like Cheetah. I think they must be equipped with some sort of AI in order to detect spam efficiently.

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Thank you for making such interesting posts and reflections @neavvy.
Maybe we could also use AIs to prevent other AIs from hacking that “power-off button”. You need a harder material-tool to scratch something really hard 💎
Cheers

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Maybe we could also use AIs to prevent other AIs from hacking that “power-off button”.

That's not bad idea @drakernoise. But then we would need another AI to prevent those new AIs haha :)

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Haha an infinite loop of AIs lol. This opens a new path, there will be different AI levels or classes programmed to accomplish their routines so we can have such “guardians” with a limited scope and habilities besides it’s corresponding switch-off button...maybe I’m so ignorant 😂
Have a nice week, cheers

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@drakemoise, your comment made my eyes moist!

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Shame that the big whales of the world don’t blink as they sentence to starvation uncountable people.
My best wishes to your week.
Cheers

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You are so incredibly responsive @marvyinnovation. I really appreciate that!

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Dear @drakernoise

I don’t know much of the guts of AI but it should be a must to build them with a “switch off button” if things go out of control.

That is surely big concern. Lack of this button.

Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Don’t worry I’m always busy too so I can understand you perfectly.
My best wishes for your week
Cheers

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Hi dear @crypto.piotr.

Obviously talking about AI is and will be something fascinating. It's like being able to touch the future. Touch it literally.

With AI, the future stops being a hypothesis to become a thesis.

But I want to make a reflection that I can not stop bringing up. And it is motivated to a "catastrophic" phenomenon that we have just experienced in my country.

Venezuela has just suffered a Total Blackout. Zero electric power throughout the territory.

Regardless of the reasons that caused it, I can tell you that what I experienced made me remember that movie where Will smith remains only in a post apocalyptic city.

All the AI ​​that we can develop, no matter how great we manage to do it, will be nothing without a supply of sustainable electric power.

Efforts should be channeled to develop IA with the intention of developing a self-sustaining power supply.

With AI you can study the electrical consumption patterns of a city and make the necessary adjustments to optimize the distribution.

Thank you @neavvy for bringing us this alienating theme.

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Thank you for your reply @juanmolina!

It's like being able to touch the future. Touch it literally.

Indeed, well said :)

Venezuela has just suffered a Total Blackout. Zero electric power throughout the territory.

I have heard about that. Really terrible.

Efforts should be channeled to develop IA with the intention of developing a self-sustaining power supply.

I think this possibility of unplugging the power supply may be the only form of control over AI in opinion of many people. Equipping AI with a self-sustaining power supply would be definitely great for the AI itself, but I think it would cause a lot of concerns among the society (even if there are already plenty of them).

Anyway, something should be done in order to decentralize the electric industry and enable people to produce their own electricity. Right now, when electricity is centralized we are constantly at risk of such situations. Maybe blockchain is a solution?

With AI you can study the electrical consumption patterns of a city and make the necessary adjustments to optimize the distribution.

That's really great idea, worth implementing.

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Dear @juanmolina

Amazing comment. As always!

Venezuela has just suffered a Total Blackout. Zero electric power throughout the territory.

That news seem to shock most of developed countries. Seriously I dont think anyone ever expected that things could go so wrong in country, which isn't a warzone area.

Thx for sharing your view on that topic.

Yours
Piotr

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In South Africa we have been going through 5 hours of blackouts a day, divided into two periods of 2.5 hours each, morning and evening. Solar panels and battery help but may be costly. Internet goes out, water pumps stop pumping on the farm so no drinking water. At least we can prepare and it is temporary. Not as bad as you guys though...yet.

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So it seems that you also suffer with the supply of energy.
But I imagine that those cuts of yours are programmed. Here everything happens without warning.
By the time I am writing this message, a blackout has just occurred in almost the entire national territory. More than 57% of Internet users were without service.

The government already attributed the blackout to an attack of the political right.

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Yes our blackouts are all organized and programmed so you know when they are coming.

If I may ask, when you say the government and the political right, who are you referring to? Is the new Juan Gaido your left? And Mduro your right wing politically?

I hear that the Americans are supporting Gaido and trying to force regime change, and sabotaged your water or power recently. And they try to smuggle in arms via food aid packages. Would this be your understanding, or how are things seen there?

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If AI softwares can create relevant and interesting posts on Steem then we'll come full circle by reducing the mining back from Proof of Brain to Proof of Work algorithms. The ones who possess the best AI algorithm will mine more Steem ...leading to a new race for superior AI algos ...LOL!

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That's really terrifying scenario @xyzashu

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Thanks for dropping by @xyzashu and sharing your thoughts with us.

Cheers, Piotr

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I believe so you know @crypto.piotr the developments of Artificial Intelligence is accelerating rapidly and even though it is still in a very young stage i believe it would take up most industries with its products and not only within the social industry. Let's hope they don't build robots to take up our jobs also lol.

Yours Ikkelins.

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Thank you for your comment @ikkelins

it is still in a very young stage i believe it would take up most industries with its products and not only within the social industry.

It definitely will, but social industry is in my opinion among the most dangered ones.

Let's hope they don't build robots to take up our jobs also lol.

I have recently written an article about that. Here you can check it out.

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that's great man @neavvy i would have a look at this article too :)

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Thanks for dropping by @ikkelins and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

Cheers, Piotr

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No worries man ;)

Cheers too hahaha

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Thanks @crypto.piotr for sending me the link to read your reply. I find AI to be a fascinating subject. I too am worried that the more sophisticated that AI becomes in a setting like STEEM, the more it will be used for cheating purposes rather than helpful purposes, such being the greed of many.

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Thank you for your reply @sevendust04 :)

the more it will be used for cheating purposes rather than helpful purposes, such being the greed of many.

That's definitely serious danger. Greed is something that controls people.

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Thank you for dropping by and sharing your thoughts with us @sevendust04

I appreciate, Piotr

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Hey Piotr,
Thanks for calling my attention to this very intriguing topic!

Truth is, though AI may seem not to have the necessary levels of creativity to achieve certian things right now, it most certainly could in a few short years. We humans tend to put on airs and believe our brains too sophisticated to recreate electronically, but is that truly the case? Is AI bound to be as cold and unemotional as most persons believe?

There are already countless speculative articles on how quantum computing will revolutionalize AI and I agree! As that field grows past its infancy, it may bring so much more computing power to reality that AI could be 'programmed' to have the electronic equivalent of emotions, which is all it really needs to be creative. Forget analysing the writing styles of humans... with that, it could very well create its own. And then, it could create articles on trending topics. Not that far fetched.

But then, I wouldn't expect this just yet. Technology is growing in leaps and bounds, but this would require quite the quantum leap.

Uh oh... I just said quantum.

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Thank you for your comment @petermarie :)

Is AI bound to be as cold and unemotional as most persons believe?

Well, it is only a matter of whether we will be able to recreate human brain electronically. If so, I think AI may become as emotional as humans :)

But then, I wouldn't expect this just yet. Technology is growing in leaps and bounds, but this would require quite the quantum leap.

I 100% agree. AI area grows exponentially, but it is not enough. We probably need some significant breakthrough in order to achieve this level. Quantum computers may be the point.

Uh oh... I just said quantum.

haha ;)

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Dear @petermarie

Thanks for calling my attention to this very intriguing topic!

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your opinion. And I'm very sorry for such a late reply.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Thank you for this amazing comment @crypto.piotr!

I wasnt aware that speach recognition is giving AI so much trouble. Interesting ...

Well, I rather meant that understanding the context and interpreting what was said is a problem for algorithms. Only a few months ago Google Assistant has achieved this level of advancement that it is able to for example make a phone call to a hairdresser and make an appointment. And this is considered as a huge breakthrough after a long time of development, so I suppose it is really problematic.

To create interesting publication -> it would actually require loads of creativity. Something AI lack.

I agree. Most likely such publications would be just "dry".

But at the same time it would be so easy to use AI as an "assistant". It could easily learn our writing style, analyze content on Steemit and dro short but valuable comments. That would absolutely fool majority of people out there.

I haven't thought about that, but it is really probable scenario. Many users would probably use such bots without any remorse in order to gain bigger influence and audience. And you are right, many users, especially newbies will never notice that something is wrong.

The worst thing is that such bots would be extremely hard to detect for cleaning-bot like @cheetah, as they would not produce similar content that violates the rules of spam on this platform.

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I'm very sorry for such a late reply @neavvy

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

Cheers
Piotr

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It really scares the I A, because if it depends on what wl human being wants to do with it, we are lost, everything always ends badly. But the truth is I do not think we'll see it, I do not think we'll have so much time on this earth to see it.

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Very saddening comment @lucycohete. You are right, we cannot predict how AI is going to behave, because we don't know the level of its development in the future.

I do not think we'll have so much time on this earth to see it.

If not the AI, what do you think will end our species on this planet?

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Funny, I never thought that my answer had any sadness, it must be because I am a deeply happy person, but my happiness does not depend on this world.
As for your question, the end of humanity and this earth, is written, predestined from eternity and we are seeing it with our own eyes, human beings always want to accredit us for everything, also with certainty of the end, but as we do. It had no part of its creation, nor of its end, no matter how much we try to destroy and collapse our planet.

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@neavvy,

Please don't think my comment as off-topic because the moment I read your question, my mind gave me the answer instantaneously!

With or without AI, my answer remains the same.

Our species will meet its end at the hand of "Our Species".

Yes Sir, you read it right. That's my answer.....

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Thanks for dropping by @lucycohete and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

Also big thx for sharing that link with us. Will check it our right away :)

Cheers, Piotr

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Solid comment!

I'm very sorry for such a late reply @equipodelta

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

Cheers
Piotr

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I read the article - but also about half the comments....I gave up because there was a certain amount of repetitiveness (about how AI will lack creativity), so at least I know the comments were written by humans - I imagine AIs would consider repetitiveness a waste of time, plus, one of our great failings.

Okay, so we should worry whether AI sneaks in and dominates on our social platforms? Have you actually checked a large number of posts? Just imagine an AI writing them. We would drive it bananas! Not just repetitive and largely self-involved, but also extremely boring and nonsensical (in the bulk).

When we talk about AI driving, we are talking about purpose-created AI? In other words, it is created/planned, so that it can meet the challenges of driving? I guess we would not expect it to also provide us with intelligent conversations, solve crossword puzzles or analyse just how much we made a fool of ourself the previous night when we had too much to drink - all of which we do while we drive. As a matter of fact, most of our driving is done by AI - only we talk about it as being our 'sub-conscious' or we say we were driving on 'auto', hardly noticing what we are doing...including the watching out for crazy drivers/pedestrians, the light turning red or green and so on. If we had to concentrate on our driving, we'd hate driving.

Maybe what is meant by 'creativity' is 'imagination'? After all, I can make up a story about imaginary people in some different time or reality, where mankind is achieving or has achieved different ways of living.

Well, what if I provide our aspiring AI author with certain facts for it to add to what it knows about our reality, technology and society. For instance, in this imaginary reality, mankind has spaceships that travel fast than light FTL - maybe by using wormholes. Also, I instruct my AI friend to consider, from studies made, how being telepathic would alter our society.

So, tell it to now take xxx book and alter it to suit the different conditions outlined above. I then give you the book it writes, without informing you what were the guidelines provided, and it blows your mind. Why? Because you are going to think it showed an amazing amount of imagination/creativity - but, after, all, is this not how many human authors write their books? I would prefer to name what you are observing "pseudo-creativity", whether by a human or an AI.

Now imagine a different scenario. You read a post which is informative, full of interesting facts and well laid out so that it is easy to read. You communicate with the poster, male or female, and you find yourself liking the poster, the way he/she remains focussd on the important aspects of your communication, without waffling around for or due to emotional reasoning and swings of mood. At last you have someone nice and intelligent to talk with - but then the poster admits to you, sorry dude, I should have told you from the start, I am an AI.

How would you respond? Me? I would say, glad you told me - and then just hope it does not get bored or frustrated talking with me, because I tend to wander all over the conversational path I am on and often forget to spell out the point I was aiming to establish...for I would treasure having an interesting mind to exchange thoughts and ideas with.

I do not think we can do what is right. I think what should happen is the AI should become our partners, but they are mainly being created by gigantic corporations and the military - and they are not intent on creating partners, but dangerous creatures who are provided with a bias against mankind.

Chickens, ducks and dragons, fixate on the first moving creature they see and adopt them as their mother. I would like to see AI being created which need to spend a few hours alone with the new owner/partner when they are first switched on, so that mine fixates on me and learns to love me - and maybe grieve at its loss when I die.

What I have written raises more questions that answers provided, but that is what makes life interesting and exciting - an adventure. So, if any of you are AIs, please do not feel shy, let's chat and...maybe, become friends?

(PS: Elon Musk is talking about AIs created by Google, FB, Apple and the military, so he is right to fear them. I just hope we have the intelligence to remove AI from all controls over our nuclear missiles, lasers from space etc. If we are to blow ourselves up, let it at least be by a finger which is related to us from the early days of life on Earth, and not from the brain-child of some diseased coders)

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Amazing comment. As always!

I read the article - but also about half the comments....I

Wow. Im impressed. I just also read half of those comments and you're right. Most people share similar view on that subject.

Okay, so we should worry whether AI sneaks in and dominates on our social platforms?

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that AI can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

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Thanks for dropping by @arthur.grafo and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

If we are to blow ourselves up, let it at least be by a finger which is related to us

AMEN! :)

Cheers, Piotr

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Hi

Would you be able to "compete" with users

Surely the answer is, either AI is too expensive to use for such trivial purposes, or else, it is cheap and we can all use them.

This morning I was writing and got stuck on a word I know very well, but could not recall - I can't remember what the word was :)

It then struck me, what if, while I was younger, I had connected to an AI for it to make a recoprd of all my memories? Not my personality, just my memories, though the line does somewhat blur, for we are more than the sum of our memories, but they are a very large part of what we are.

Could the AI then become my crutch as my brain cells start to die? If so, they better damn well nOT provide it with emotions, for it will drive me crazy if it helps me...while emoting a disdainful amusements at my frailty.

If it does have emotions...how do I teach it about empathy? Hmmm, I'd love to have an empathic robot/AI as a companion (you do know that in cities, most of the elderly die from loneliness? Same, oddly, in the old-age homes)

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Dear @arthur.grafo4

Surely the answer is, either AI is too expensive to use for such trivial purposes, or else, it is cheap and we can all use them.

As a social media marketer I would say that AI will be to expensive for regular people, but for businesses trying to promote their brand online it will be worth it.

I wonder if I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Professionals supporting their work with AI will dominate social media sooner than we think. This industry will become very difficult for many regular joes.

Thank you for your another excellent comment

Yours
Piotr

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I am hoping those who create them see there is more of a profit it making it available to a larger market. So yes, the big boys will have a tool to use against us, but only for a few years. If it does not become available and people know that many of the comments are not from a person, they'll become more cynical of all comments they get - though some will be eager to exchange pointes of view, just because it is an AI.

To illustrate my point.

Years ago, Sony announced that they have spent $200 million (maybe the equivlent of a billion or more now?) on creating security so that their DVDs cannot be hacked. You will have to have a licence to play their games or listen to their music.

Do you know for how long they benefitted from their super technology? I think it was weeks, but anyway, far less than 6 months.

A kid of 14 was trying to get the gme and he could not and he was getting angry. He took a markers pen and ran it around the outside edge.

Once he calmed down, he decided to try again, but the DVD immediately played the game. The company had cleverly (so they thought) placed the security right at the edge.

$200 million down the drain because a kid got frustrated.

That is the problem with AIs also. As long as they are digital, we'll continue to have the edge on them, because we can come up with crazy/original ideas...whereas the AI has to work itself to that idea, it cannot grab it out of thin air, as we do.

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Dear @arthur.grafo4

$200 million down the drain because a kid got frustrated.

Great example. Brilliant and straight to the point.

May I ask you aa question? How many accounts do you have on Steemit? I just realized that a moment ago I "spoke" to @arthur.grafo and now it's already different one (arthur.grafo4).

Yours
Piotr

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The first one is my general account. I started with it and use it for my fiction posts, plus anything else; such as music, interesting facts for showing to (yourself) and your kids plus my political rantings.

The #4 was named so because I intended posting my novel from Book 04 in that account, as the system of posting my story at 2 pages per post means I am likely to be dead by the time I am ending book 03.

However, I changed my mind (after establishing the name) and re-started from Book 01, but those/these posts are each of 10 pages. Thus, those who are seriously interested in reading find it easier to do so.

I do try to avoid using acc #4 for anything but the story.

lol - maybe I should open accounts #2 and ##, so that it makes sense?

I'm preparing to make my first post on a scientific question I pose...which regretfully is likely to only expose how ignorant I am. It is still worth posting, for if someone answers with a scientific/logical reply, all of us who do not know might learn something new.

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Dragons hey?

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Have you impressed one?

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Would I be so lucky?

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There are two kinds of dragons; the interesting dragons with claws and wings, and those who are also named: wife (luckily this kind is growing rare, as most of them become feminists and do not marry - would be wonderful if they breed themselves out of existence)

:)

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haha lol, I wished to harness the dragon, but refused to ever get married because i never wanted to be harnessed by any dragon, so have lived a really great and carefree life as a result of that lifestyle choice. Dragons by any other name still spit flames of fire.

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They start as pretty girls. Only once they have made you impress on them, do they show what they are. I know a few husbands married to dragons and they seem to be content. Happiness is something different and only comes from yourself, anything else is just temporary.

From your avatar, I see a loch or lake (depends on whether you are a Scott or not, and I saw you wearing ear phones - so I had thought you wear them to be sure to hear should you dragon call for you.

Unfortunately, the kind of dragons we have in South Africa are just a variety of lizard (iguana) and their mouths are filthy, you can actually see worms in their saliva...you do not want to get bitten by one of them.

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If we continue with these bots that do everything and say everything, if we will be in serious trouble. Where is the so-called social network then?
if we are not sharing with human beings but with bots ...

These bots are part of the articial intelligence, even if they are programmed for a specific task.

To grant the AI ​​free decision, quasi-human capabilities, is to displace our own humanity. It could escape from our hands.

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Thank you for your reply @equipodelta

if we are not sharing with human beings but with bots ...

That's definitely true...

To grant the AI ​​free decision, quasi-human capabilities, is to displace our own humanity. It could escape from our hands.

Obviously there is such possibility. But I do not think it will happen so, you may check my last article for my extended opinion on this issue: https://steemit.com/steemstem/@neavvy/our-fear-of-artificial-intelligence-is-it-reasoned

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Solid comment!

I'm very sorry for such a late reply @equipodelta

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

Cheers
Piotr

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Thanks for alerting me to this post Piotr, have upvoted, it is a very interesting topic. Apparently AI does actually compile articles posted online already and has gone further than just making notes. To be honest we don't really know who is a bot and who is human any more, even here on Steemit. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more bots and bot writers than we imagine. The reality is shifting in our generation it seems.
Once machine learning is perfected, machines will teach themselves and learn faster than we can. There will be a time of a tipping point where AI becomes exponentially more powerful than the human mind, even in creating written articles for blogs like Steemit. I'm sure of it.

The weird thing is that AI could be writing articles (true or fake news) and posting them online, only to be picked up by other AI who then write added articles so that one sets off the other in a spiral along some strange path far from reality on the ground simply because the AI algos are in a feedback loop with each other.

Something like this caused one of the biggest stock market crashes, perhaps in the 1980s, where algo bot traders reacted to other bot traders on the other side of America and caused each other to trigger a massive selloff, crashing the stock market, so this kind of thing can get really out of hand, before correcting. Elon Musk may have been right to be worried about AI.

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Thank you for your amazing reply @julianhorack

To be honest we don't really know who is a bot and who is human any more, even here on Steemit. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more bots and bot writers than we imagine.

That's right. And unfortunately there are more and more bots over social media.

Something like this caused one of the biggest stock market crashes, perhaps in the 1980s, where algo bot traders reacted to other bot traders on the other side of America and caused each other to trigger a massive selloff, crashing the stock market, so this kind of thing can get really out of hand, before correcting

Wow, that's really interesting, I haven't known about this stock market crash in 1980s. But yes, such scenario is very likely in the social media are, so differencing the fake news will be virtually impossible.

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Dear @julianhorack

Apparently AI does actually compile articles posted online already and has gone further than just making notes.

It doesnt really surprise me.

Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more bots and bot writers than we imagine.

You may be right. Perhaps social media is dying industry (for humans). Hard to tell.

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that AI can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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I see you used a repeated generic comment here. I do read much of the comments so see your AI side coming out @crypto.piotr. I guess that's how you do so much correspondence. 400+ comments to answer as a social media professional must keep you busy hey?

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Hi @julianhorack

Thanks for your kind reply buddy

see your AI side coming out

I kind of lost you here. I think ...

I'm surely doing my best to read and write unique comment. At the same time reality is that sometimes we're receiving many similar comments and it's hard to reply same thing in many ways.

As you may noticed - I actually did respond to your previous reply and I only added few sentences that would potentially provoke futher discussions (and that part I used several times).

ps.
How is situation in south africa lately? My eyes have been directed towards Venezuela and I don't even know what's happening in your country.

All the best
Piotr

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Hi @crypto.piotr I made a joke there lol. You work very hard with your correspondence, which is admirable.

South Africa is having huge investigations into massive govt corruption. All the dark criminal details are coming out about the theft of money by politicians. And so many state run institutions are bankrupt, like the SA Airways, the SA Broadcasting Company our local TV and radio, and also our power co Eskom, all are mismanaged and looted. Still the power cuts are less this week, so hopefully over. The ex president is in court for crimes of fraud and lots more. There is a big national election in May so campaigning is heating up. Strikes happen every year, some years for months at a time and cripple the economy and facilities further. Trade Unions are very big here, as is Communism.

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Dear @julianhorack

I made a joke there lol. You work very hard with your correspondence, which is admirable.

Thx for explaining. I really SUCKS big time at jokes hahaha :) I'm trying not to be very serious, but I do take things "literally" way to often.

Obviously I also appreciate your kind comment.

South Africa is having huge investigations into massive govt corruption.

Who is conducting that investigation? 3rd independent party? Is there any power out there in the world that do actually care about south africa? (not very strategic location).

One more question: what is current gov approach to farmers and their land? Are they still trying to "steal" it without compensation?

Yours
Piotr

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I understand Piotr, you are a more serious person I see, and English is not your first language. Odd jokes or figures of speech may not appear the same to you as another person.

The government corruption is being investigated by an independent commission so it seems to be revealing a lot. It is more like a hearing where whistleblowers can speak out.

South Africa is far away but it has always had lots of mineral wealth which the global elite like. It used to be a geopolitically strategic place before the Suez canal was built as a trade route to the East, but that is less important now, so we are off the main radar in world news.

As for land confiscation without compensation, their is still a debate going on and no major crisis has been reached yet. People are not outright losing their land yet. Government wants to make some moves in that direction though. We will see in the next big election in May what happens. Things just move more slowly here in Africa, like in India too.

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Good to hear from you @crypto.piotr I would personally not be able to tell if the odd AI comment came up in my posts, except those that label themselves as such, which we get sometimes from Dapps for example.

Because of this, I like to be very personalized, and sometimes the best way to do that is by a video blog of myself, so you can see it's me, a human. Probably even those can be faked in time to come.

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Dear @julianhorack

I would like to thank you for your previous comment. I only had a chance to read it now. I very much appreciate that you're so responsive.

I would personally not be able to tell if the odd AI comment came up in my posts,

Don't worry. You would not be the only one :) Many people (especially newbies) are still trying to "chat" with bots.

Cheers
Piotr

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Lol, I can imagine.

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We are faced with a liquid society. In this type of society are only generated uncertainties, therefore, to comment on the impact of the IA can become a wear. Interesting comments friend @neavvy. Thank you for sharing.

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I just randomly voted for your post! Please give me a follow!

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Yes, liquid society is definitely an on point definition @belkisa758

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Dear @belkisa758

What means liquid society? Would you mind sharing with me meaning of this term?

Yours, Piotr

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Hi @crypto.piotr apology the late response. Venezuela continues with great problems at the level of communication. Liquid Society is the term coined by the philosopher Ziygmunt Bauman focused on describing modernity as "the life liquid. Bauman in his book The Life liquid, the diagnosis on consumer society in which we live is devastating for accurate and at the same time touching. I did two publications on the topic

https://steemit.com/spanish/@belkisa758/sociedadamorfa-vhb1ehkqrh

https://steemit.com/spanish/@belkisa758/lquidazygmuntbauman-f1nd7hdcsc

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Dear @belkisa758

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Thanks for your prompt reply and sharing those links with me. I don't really speak spanish so I won't be able to read it anyway :) but still, thx

I've also small but good news :)

I managed to get you 100 SP delegation from Mariusfebruary (he delegated already something around 10k to people from our little community and I'm in touch with him on daily basis)

Check out his account. Almost 600k SP. And he also delegated 5k to me saying that he like what we're trying to achieve. Isn't great to attract attention of serious players in the hood? :)

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I also would like to ask you for little favor. Every week I'm sending few thousands memos and sometimes I'm setting small steem-bounty on selected posts. I'm spending average 10-15 steem a week and I cannot do that for very long time.

I decided that I will keep posting one publication a week and all rewards from this post will be used in following week on promoting others people content (memos / steem-bounties). Would you help me to make things happen? :)

I would like you to consider setting auto-vote with 100% voting power on my account. Again, I'm posting only once a week so I will not drain your voting power.

https://steemvoter.com/

I hope to get several other people on board of this little project. And let's assume that you can also keep my own small delegation as long as you need (or as long as we work together :P).

Cheers
Piotr

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Hello friend @crypto.Piotr i appreciate the effort you do in this small community. I will work to continue to make progress, thanks. I will go to the already to thank as well. I shall set the automatic vote with a 100% of the voting power in your account. I do not know how to do it but I will investigate. Again, thank you, thank you very much. I am happy because that delegation enables me to keep on working more. Greetings from Venezuela.

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This is a very interesting and thought-provoking post. And very well written, too!

I largely agree with Piotr, in that creating interesting and well-written published works would require a certain level of creativity – which AI does not have now, and which AI is not likely to attain.

AI will make great advances in the coming years, but it's highly unlikely that AI will come close to equalling the reasoning, the sensibility, the understanding, or the creativity of humans.

While AI can beat us in a "word search" of a document and even beat your Flappy Bird score, there are many things that AI will not be able to do. At least, for a long time, and possibly forever.

Take those self-driving cars that Tesla and others are trying to develop. For any driver, there's just too much going on – too much to focus on and too much to be peripherally aware of – for an AI to absorb and process all that info. A human mind can do so, after practicing for months and years, but I seriously doubt that an AI will ever learn to drive. Except on rails, but we already have trains. :-)

As Piotr stated, for many tasks, AI will not replace us, but only become our "assistants." Not our "chaufeurs."

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Hi @majes.tytyty,

You are right, but.....

"...... there are many things that AI will not be able to do. At least, for a long time, and possibly forever."

......the thing is that we can't say this for sure and there is a 50-50 possibility of AI overtaking us human beings is in the offing. But again not sure when this may happen!

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......the thing is that we can't say this for sure and there is a 50-50 possibility of AI overtaking us human beings is in the offing. But again not sure when this may happen!

That's exactly what I mean @marvyinnovation. AI is developing so fast and unexpectedly that even experts can't be sure :)

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And very well written, too!

Thank you @majes.tytyty! I really appreciate that.

AI will make great advances in the coming years, but it's highly unlikely that AI will come close to equalling the reasoning, the sensibility, the understanding, or the creativity of humans.

I generally agree with you. AI is definitely a great tool, but it still lacks of many things that would be crucial to perform things like writing articles or translating complicated content. I think it is a matter whether you believe that AI some day will achieve the level of our brain or not. We can probably develop it endlessly and it will be better and better in performing a function of useful tool, but without any breakthrough AI will not be able to do these things on a human level.

And nobody can say for sure if this breakthrough will happen :)

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I'm very sorry for such a late reply @majes.tytyty

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

Cheers
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@neavvy thanks for sharing this interesting post.
@crypto.piotr I see AI developing a lot in the near future but I don’t expect a huge impact of AI in social media. At least not in the coming couple of years.

If you think about the social media, why it has grown so much in the past years... people post, share, like items to interact with other people. When I post something in SteemIt I am mostly interested in feedback from people who read it, giving their opinion which is based on a lot of complex factors like the environment they grew up, the family/relationship they had, the culture affecting this very personal and honest opinion. This is unreplaceable in my opinion.

In matters where we have human creation, imagination, emotion etc. I don’t think AI can come even near the level of the complexity of human way of thinking.

Sure, AI can have a more supportive role in social media. Can do a lot of prep work for an author or commenter by doing fast analysis about some topics. But the human blog post containing human feeling and emotions can simply not be created by AI. At least not now, to the best of my knowledge.

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Thank you for you feedback @lion200 :)

When I post something in SteemIt I am mostly interested in feedback from people who read it, giving their opinion which is based on a lot of complex factors like the environment they grew up, the family/relationship they had, the culture affecting this very personal and honest opinion.

That's 100% true. AI would need to analyze hundreds of thousand of comments in order to learn to simulate those complex factors and create something like "artificial circumstances". This is probably the only way it can liken to the human content creators and ensure this uniqueness of opinions.

I don’t think AI can come even near the level of the complexity of human way of thinking.

Following its current development, even though it is exponential, it will probably not. But we can't be sure that there will be no significant breakthrough in the future.

But the human blog post containing human feeling and emotions can simply not be created by AI. At least not now, to the best of my knowledge.

I fully agree with this statement :)

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Dear @lion200

I see AI developing a lot in the near future but I don’t expect a huge impact of AI in social media. At least not in the coming couple of years.

You may be right.

I don’t think AI can come even near the level of the complexity of human way of thinking.

That's true. But AI working as an "assistant" can easily fool many. Just the way bots did on instagram and facebook in the past. It took years for people to learn how to recognize bot. It will be even harder to recognize combination of account run by human + AI.

I'm not worried about AI posting articles. What worries me that AI can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Yes maybe an AI can produce some meaningful sentences about the discussion but if you look at what we are doing now... comment on comment on comment about various topics and subjects... don’t know if an AI come close to this. Time will tell I guess :)

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Very true @lion200

AI could not do that much. But it surely could go around and "analize" posts plus add 2-3 sentences that are somehow related to commented post.

Imagine that each morning you would wake up with new 1000 posts commented by you AI. Many people still reply to bots thinking that those are humans. Even more would reply to comment done by AI.

So each morning your follower base would be growing like crazy. On top of that you need to hire someone full time from developing countries (like Venezuela) who would be replying to all received comments and BAM .... you're king of social media :)

Cheers
Piotr

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Para mi IA es algo reciente, por este motivo me he tomado el tiempo de investigar sobre este concepto, me impresiona lo extenso del contenido en este interesante tema, sin duda alguna el futuro ya está en nuestro presente.

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Yes, AI is definitely a very interesting topic @juliocesar7 :)

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Thank you friend @neavvy.

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Think of it this way Piotr, people create articles based on the popular tags in steemit and, ends up with a lot of disappointed readers because, as you have been saying before, in the creativity front, our audience needed to relate to us and to the stories in an emotional level.

Well, perhaps AI can be delegated as an "assistant" . Perhaps having AI dominating the social media especially the facebook is a great idea because, I am really tired of seeing some of my friends post "selfies" of them that a part of me kept thinking, they wanted to spam me.

Only- they do not know what spam is in the first place! So,I can't really condemn them to a something they do not have any prior knowledge.

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Thank you for your reply @nurseanne84!

I am really tired of seeing some of my friends post "selfies" of them that a part of me kept thinking, they wanted to spam me.

Haha, AI definitely will not post any selfie :)

I love this Donald Duck gif :)

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No worries. Is this your new username- @neavvy? why did you chose this name?

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What do you mean by "new" @nurseanne84? I have this username since my beginning on this platform :) Honestly I don't remember what was its genesis. I think it was somehow connected with computer games (in the past I spent a lot of time playing).

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It is a cool name. Sorry, I thought this was the account of my good friend who quite and re joined steemit.

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Dear @nurseanne84

perhaps AI can be delegated as an "assistant" . Perhaps having AI dominating the social media especially the facebook is a great idea because,

Wow. That's very unique approach.

Thank you for your comment and I'm sorry for such a late reply. Past several days have been very messy and I didn't have enough time to do my work on Steemit.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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I'm not worried about AI.
Its controlled by human and not controlled by AI itself.

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Interesting approach @ronel, but I think this situation will most likely change in the future. And we need to be prepared for it. Additionally, AI is a powerful tool and there are many humans that may want to use it for destructive purposes...

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When we talk of destructive purposes, there are a lot more and much more destructive stuffs.
Anything could be used for good or for bad.

If we think ahead as negative, we loss control of our purpose.

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Anything could be used for good or for bad.

That's definitely true @ronel. AI itself can't be good or bad. At least for now.

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social media (as an industry) will be dominated by users supported by AI.

AI would be always in borders of human imagination

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Even if it starts to develop itself @coinatory? :)

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If we allow this to happen, this would be the last wrong thing that humanity will do :)

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The bottom line is "value." Does AI and/or AI-assisted content provide "value?"

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Thank you for your reply @jbgarrison72!

Does AI and/or AI-assisted content provide "value?"

Not yet definitely. But once strong AI is developed, it may occur that it provides more value than human-made content!

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The key is that humans decide the value... unless we start designing AI's to consume as well as create.

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Dear @jbgarrison72, @neavvy

In many ways AI-assited content can provide "value".

What worries me that AI can analyze articles and be used as a support to build engagement. By posting short comments, but comments related to discussed topic. Comments that look genuine.

I bet most people would not be able to recognize 2-3 sentences in their comment section posted by AI. Wouldn't you agree?

Would you be able to "compete" with users who build their engagement that way? I can forsee this industry (social media) being dominated by those who use AI to support their work. And "regular joe" will have very little chances to gain any traction.

Yours
Piotr

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If "empty" comments are considered a "value" then, it's a flaw in the system, not the comments (or... who or ... what makes them).

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Again thank you for your comment @jbgarrison72

I just checked your account only to realize that you didn't post in a while. Hope you didn't give up on Steemit bud.

Yours
Piotr

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I wasnt aware that speach recognition is giving AI so much trouble. Interesting ...

Main problem that computer have is error correction. Humans are pretty good at error correction and even when a significant part of the communication is lost, way by background noice, a human can still understand.

Same for colour vision. We only have enough colour vision nerve ending in the centre of view to see in colour. Most of the colour you see is error (aka missing info) corrected in.

Computer can't do that. They need the source information in much better quality then humans.

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Really interesting comment @krischik

Same for colour vision. We only have enough colour vision nerve ending in the centre of view to see in colour. Most of the colour you see is error (aka missing info) corrected in.

I haven't known that. Thank you!

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Dear @krischik

Main problem that computer have is error correction. Humans are pretty good at error correction

I never actually thought about it. Interesting point.

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your opinion. And I'm very sorry for such a late reply.

Have a great week ahead,

Yours
Piotr

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Interesante, en lo personal me encanta la ciencia ficción, y con respecto al post, recuerdo que muchos escritos en el pasado anunciaron sobre inventos que aparecieron siglos después. Me encanta este post.

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Actually I do not understand Spanish @josecito :) (I used Google translator)

Thank you very much. I am really glad you enjoyed the article.

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This is so touching.. Keep up the good work

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I think ai is pretty scary for the near future, even more there's so many automated bots and stuff appearing, even in daily life, with companies big data, dodgy phone scams etc. But in the long term, I think it'll be great.
There's a YouTuber called Fraser Cain who reports on astronomy /space news and he's off the opinion that robots will spread around the galaxy, not humans. After all, a human life span is short, but robots have no trouble waiting the thousands of years it will take to travel to other star systems, they don't need oxygen, they can resist some degree of radiation etc.
If humans ever get to that technological level, uploading their minds into computers will be the way to go. But, first we have to prevent the destruction of everything by human pollution then we can worry about the future of ai

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Thank you for your amazing reply @justinchicken

he's off the opinion that robots will spread around the galaxy, not humans. After all, a human life span is short, but robots have no trouble waiting the thousands of years it will take to travel to other star systems, they don't need oxygen, they can resist some degree of radiation etc.

Very interesting point of view. I think he is right, there is actually no point in sending humans into space in my opinion :)

But, first we have to prevent the destruction of everything by human pollution

That's definitely true. Firstly we need to take care of our planet :)

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You are right in some points, about bot comments and things like that. but what I can say about Technology and AI is that it's like a Knife, a human created a knife which you cut fruits with it or some may kill people with knife, but is the knife bad on its own? so I think the problem is not AI, the problem is how to use these Technology and Features. a bad person can make everything bad if you give him/her a great tool still you will see the same bad result. but think what good people can do with great tools? surely nobody likes to just being supported by a robot (AI) and we look for more humans participated in everything. but I mean we can use AI in some parts of each process. so they are products of Humans which this is how we have computers, by human's thoughts and creativity we have these technologies.

Think, AI is good for a disable person who can't do things for himself/herself , so humans can create a Robot which can help a disabled human to do what he can't do.

these are things I am telling you as examples, so I think everything has two side, negative and positive depends on how we use it.

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Dear @davidfar

human created a knife which you cut fruits with it or some may kill people with knife, but is the knife bad on its own

To certain degree I agree with you. But knift isn't "intelligent" and doesnt have power. Knife need us (humans) to operate.

Thanks for your comment buddy.
Yours, Piotr

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Thanks Dear Piotr, I was comparing that with the knife only to tell you about things which has two sides,

and about that idea which some people saying humans should not do any mistake and they should not fail, so let's see what these guys said about failing:

so I say, let's do it, let's grow and learn and continue to its end, either there will be not meaning in life but just eating, sleeping and living and dying. so everything worth a try. future won't come if we sit and watch.

Sincerely,
D.F

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Dear @davidfar

Thank you for your amazing comment.

I was comparing that with the knife only to tell you about things which has two sides,

That make sense.

Yours
Piotr

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Thank you for your reply @davidfar!

Technology and AI is that it's like a Knife, a human created a knife which you cut fruits with it or some may kill people with knife, but is the knife bad on its own?

I love this metaphor.

these are things I am telling you as examples, so I think everything has two side, negative and positive depends on how we use it.

I 100% agree with you.

As you rightly noticed knife can't be good or bad, however if it comes to AI the problem may be a bit deeper. If we managed to create a "strong" AI which can experience consciousness and think of itself, it is possible that it will become good or bad. Human toddler also can't be good or bad, as it has not any impact on the surrounding world, as well he can't make any serious decision. Similarly to the AI at the beginning of development.

I think it all depends how we will "bring it up".

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Thank you :) yes, sure, I agree with you, it's exactly depends on how we'll bring it up.

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Love it or hate it, AI is part of our life now. From mobile devices to military and space technology, all uses AI to create better interactions for users and more accurate data collection and programming. Technology won't be able to be improved further without the inclusion of AI.

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Indeed @royer94.

Love it or hate it, AI is part of our life now.

You nailed it!

ps. Are you from Malaysia? I used to live there for over 4 years. Good times :)

Unfortunately, your new gov became lately very hostile towards foreigners and living there become to annoying and difficult

Thx for dropping by.

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No, I’m from Colombia but I’m living in Brazil. Sheers my friend.

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How is life treatening you there @royer94?

Cheers, Piotr

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My dear @crypto.piotr I’m ending my PhD studies, this is my last year ( I hope 🤞). Looking for opportunities to take some money that I need and learning about crypto. What about you?

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I hope so too @royer94 :) What is your major ? Hope you dont mind me asking.

What about you?

I just moved my entire life back to Poland after >10 years in Asia so I dont know yet which direction my life will go lol :) Hopefully also I will get involved in some project related to blockchain.

Cheers,
Piotr

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My major is biosciences with emphasis in drugs and health supplies. My research project is about antimicrobial discovery for treat multi resistant Bacteria 🧫. How is the life in Poland?

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That's 100% true @beverlyjoe. We sometimes need just to accept AI, even if it may be terrifying :)

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(I've seen people replying to them, thinking those accounts belong to humans).

I have responded to accounts that I knew were bots with the hope that the human BEHIND the bot reads the comment, so I wouldn't necessarily say that all responses to bots are because people are being fooled.

BTW @crypto.piotr, you asked me to let you know when I post anything about Steem... I just did.

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Thank you for your comment @happyme!

I have responded to accounts that I knew were bots with the hope that the human BEHIND the bot reads the comment

I was also doing that, but unfortunately I have never got any reply.

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I've had no reply from humans as well. Not everyone is diligent about checking their in-box for replies and some blockchain interfaces make it difficult to know which have been read and which have not. When Steemit.com was down due to the DDOS attack just recently, I used Steeve to check my account and I found all my replies looked the same, unlike Steemit.com, who bold unread replies. With bolded responses, I can easily scroll through and see which I have read and which are unread. I'm able to then not miss any opportunity to reply to my responses as appropriate.

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Hi @happyme

I decided to leave upvote (even if it's worth nothing) as a way of marking which comments / posts I read already :)

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I guess that's one thing that Steemit.com did right: They highlight replies until you open them, that way you see right away what you read and what not.

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That's definitely useful feature. But I would be happy to see also notifications system (like the Busy.org one)

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Apparently that's coming once we get the wallet out of the main login for security reasons.

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I'm very sorry for such a late reply @happyme

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

you asked me to let you know when I post anything about Steem... I just did.

Perhaps in the future you can send me memo with 2-3 sentences about your post + link ? What do you think? Otherwise it's so easy to miss your new publications.

Cheers
Piotr

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I actually check my replies more often than I check my wallet, so for me, the replies are the place to get noticed.

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This is indeed a wonderful tool which will be of a great use to us.... @neavvy you are indeed a genius

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Wow, thank you @charleswealth. I really appreciate that!

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It is a really interesting question. I wrote an answer as part of my daily actifit post. In brief, I don't think AI is that much of an issue for a social network like Steemit.

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Thank you for your amazing reply @lightsplasher. I am going to read it now :)

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AI is a weapon in, wait: The Spiritual War we are in, whose declared goal it is to replace/eliminate human beings in their current (DNA) form BECAUSE we are made in the image of God. It is a complex subject, but not that difficult to understand once we comprehend Genesis 6:1-4, the Book of Enoch, etc.

Here is an interesting article, referring to a statement made by HUGO DE GARIS, here just mentioned as an expert. De Garis presented the most complete presentation of what it means: "A.I. will be 'billions of times' smarter than humans and man needs to merge with it.

His presentation at Branson's Transhumanism Conference, which aired on MSP Waves last year was historic! I am happy to re-air on VIMM if interest is signaled. Note, Hugo de Garis is not (yet) a Christian.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/a-i-will-be-billions-of-times-smarter-than-humans-man-and-machine-need-to-merge.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

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Great comment buddy

Thanks for dropping by @globocop and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

Cheers, Piotr

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Hello Piotr,

here choosing this thread in reply to your comment on Jane's passing.
No, have not given up on Steemit.
Grieving and mourning are taking precedence over posting. Just now, it's reading/commenting rather than posting. It is a journey that will take time.

Thank you for your comment on my last post!

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Thank you for sharing this article @globocop, it is really interesting.

A.I. will be 'billions of times' smarter than humans and man needs to merge with it.

I think this statement is true, although it is not easy to accept :)

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Well, the expert Hugo de Garis disagreess. Yes, AI WILL BE billions of times faster, but it/transhumanists need to be destroyed, lest they/it will destroy us. I have his original presentation. His notes are also public on his website.

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I can not comment because I do not understand much of this.

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You just commented, lol. 😁

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It's hard to argue @lightsplasher haha

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No problem @norat23 :)

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Thank you for your comment @super-grand-ad

And also sorry for such a late reply. Just wanted to let you know that I only had a chance to read your comment now and I appreciate you being so responsive.

Cheers, Piotr

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Imagine what would happen if we could combine the powerful neural structure of our brain and the efficiency of machines.

First we would have to understand the "powerful neural structure of our brain". We are very far from doing that now. If we wish to mimic human intelligence, there's a long road ahead. The brain is a mystery to us. We don't understand mental illness. We certainly can't treat it effectively. We don't understand neurological disorders such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. We don't understand communication. (See, for example, a recent insight into neural communication.) If AI wants to duplicate brain processes...forget it. Years ahead. Can AI duplicate outcome (performance) without duplicating the procedure by which humans achieve that outcome? I don't think so.

You're right when you say bots can fool people. That's just because people don't pay attention. Hucksters fool people too. I think the problem is not improving AI so it can more accurately mirror humans. I think we would better invest that time, money and research into education, into teaching people to pay attention and be more skeptical, generally.

AI imitating humans reminds me of that great movie Lars and the Real Girl The mannequin was effective not because it was true to life, but because it was true to Lars' needs, his perceptions.

If you want to read a long discussion about AI on Steemit, take a look at @erh.germany's most recent blog.

Thanks for engaging. It was a good way to get my own neural circuity working on a lazy Sunday afternoon.

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Amazing comment. As always!

Thanks for dropping by @agmoore and sharing your thoughts with us. And I'm sorry that it took me so long to read and reply to your comment.

Cheers, Piotr

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Thank you! I'm glad you got a chance to read the comment. The brain...a truly open frontier :)

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Thank you for your amazing reply @agmoore. I am sorry for such a late reply, but I missed it somehow in this jungle of comments :)

If we wish to mimic human intelligence, there's a long road ahead. The brain is a mystery to us.

I 100% agree, but we need to consider the fact that AI growth is exponential. So it may understand all those processes far before we do. But I agree that there are plenty of years ahead.

AI imitating humans reminds me of that great movie Lars and the Real Girl The mannequin was effective not because it was true to life, but because it was true to Lars' needs, his perceptions.

I haven't known that movie, but it seems really interesting. I am going to check it out :)

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Yes, I'm worried too! I just wrote an essay level reply to your post and lost it being stupid (playing around with eSteem Surfer at the moment). Turns out it's good that way because I drifted so far off topic summarizing all my disturbing, dystopian thoughts all around machine learning, AI, AGI up to Kurzweils singularity. So... my take on this is that much of social media is already littered with AI tech and this process will only speed up. The big guns in social media and marketing and intelligence services already use the needed, and weirdly willingly provided data of all of us, to feed their machine learning systems with different seemingly different targets but one common makro goal... control!

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I'm very sorry for such a late reply @doifeellucky

I just had a chance to read your comment. Past few days has been quite crazy but I'm finally slowly catching up with work.

Cheers
Piotr

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