Mormon Couple Claim They’re ‘Not Homophobic’ Despite Believing Gay Sex Is a Sin 🏳️_🌈

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During the Stacey Dooley Sleeps Over on W episode, Lindsay Preston who belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and her husband Mark told their son, Adam, that they believe being queer is "immoral" and acting on it violates the "moral standard" of the Mormon church. But the 17-year-old disagreed with his parents, blasting them for saying that homosexuality is a “choice”. The teen is preparing for a two-year missionary trip to Zambia where he will try to recruit new church members. However, as a result, he will have limited contact to his family. Host Dooley asked the family their views on homosexuality, and Lindsay sharply responds: “We’re not homophobic.

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A lot of people think it is immoral or a sin to drink. That does not mean that they are afraid of people with a beer.

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@fredrikaa said something similar but I think the speakers in this video were using the term "Homophobic" in a less technical and more standard way i.e. how the word is actually used.


Kind of like how people park in driveways and drive in parkways, but in the most technical version of the word HomoPHOBIC, you and @fredrikaa are right.


P.S. Here is the definition of the word "Homophobic" on Google:

  1. Having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

https://www.google.com/search?q=homophobic&oq=homophobic&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6j69i61.2938j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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So, they are making up their own definition of the word and using it as a weapon?

I don't think they understand the word immoral or the concept of sin any better than those who condemn homosexuality understand what they are condemning.

In any case, I don't think being homosexual is immoral or a sin and I also believe for many it is absolutely not a choice.

I just don't think you fight hate, with smear campaigns and hyperbole.

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So, they are making up their own definition of the word and using it as a weapon?

  1. Did you actually look up the dictionary definition for the word homophobic? @whatsup

I provided the link but I think you didn't click on it.

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I don't think they understand the word immoral or the concept of sin any better than those who condemn homosexuality understand what they are condemning.

In some of the videos he published here, @armin.navabi clearly states that his morality is about not causing harm, and that any other form of morality will result in more harm than his version of morality since preventing harm would not be the primary focus.

  1. Do you still think their understanding of morality is no better than the people you mentioned?

  2. Do you think your understanding of morality is better than theirs? If so, what is your moral compass? How do you decide what is moral and what is not?

I just don't think you fight hate, with smear campaigns and hyperbole.

It's possible that you are the one using hyperbole and launching a mini-tini-tiny-smear campaign in these comments.

Maybe I didn't explain myself well but I was trying to say that the word homophobic when pulled apart HOMO-PHOBIC would lead a person to think it was a phobia but the actual standard definition describes it as someone who has a dislike for homosexuals - hence my reference to the word driveway since we don't drive in driveways we park there.

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To consider someone's behavior as a sin does not translate to disliking the person or a prejudice. Again, if I think having a beer or dancing is a Sin, I would choose to not participate in having a beer or dancing, but it does not imply judgement of the person, rather a behavior.

I'm pretty sure we all know and love some people that do things we choose not to do.

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In any case, I don't think being homosexual is immoral or a sin and I also believe for many it is absolutely not a choice.

I re-read your initial comment and I understand now that you can see things from the Mormon's perspective but that you don't agree with their perspective.

That's good... can you help me see things from your perspective? @whatsup


What is your moral compass?

  • How do you personally determine what is moral and immoral? @whatsup

Which definition of the word Sin do you use?

AND..

  1. How do you personally determine what is a "sin" and what is not?

  2. The word sin comes with a lot of baggage since there are probably things that most people consider "sins" that you don't - would it be better to abandon the word sin and use other words like ignorance, addiction, poor judgement, etc.? Why or why not?

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No question you are correct when you say that the word Sin holds baggage.

I view it as things people do that can harm their enjoyment of life. When I moved away from a Catholic upbringing I used to like to say, we are punished BY our sins, not for our Sins. Meaning the punishment comes from inside (results, feelings), not outside. (God)

Having too many sexual partners "could" result in drama and hurt feelings, depending on the circumstances. Alcohol and Drugs could result in not being able to focus on important things and can hurt your health, make you feel sick, drunk, mind altered etc.

Lying and Stealing hurt others...

The title of your post implies that a Mormon can not think that homosexuality is a sin without being homophobic, I'm saying I know and love many Christians including Mormons and it is a huge assumption. I've told you why twice.

Personally, I try not to judge others religious or not based on beliefs and different values. That doesn't mean I choose to emulate the behavior of those people.

Don't hurt other people or yourself... Wise words, not mine.

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When I moved away from a Catholic upbringing I used to like to say, we are punished BY our sins, not for our Sins.

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When a person uses the word "Sin" it implies something that goes against "Divine Law" but I think you are talking more about people making mistakes that break natural laws.

I understand though that you might have a different view now compared to when you first left Catholicism.

The title of your post implies that a Mormon can not think that homosexuality is a sin without being homophobic, I'm saying I know and love many Christians including Mormons and it is a huge assumption. I've told you why twice.

I realize my mistake now and I probably would have noticed it sooner if we were talking in person. Sometimes when I read text I read what I think I am reading instead of what is actually written.

Thank you for correcting us.. I cannot speak for the rest of @atheistrepublic or the speakers in the video but I agree with you.


P.S. I upvoted your comment with 100% voting strength for maximum visibility. If you or anyone else offers constructive criticism that proves any of us wrong, I will upvote it for great visibility 👍

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I think I already told you but in case I didn't, I am a volunteer managing @atheistrepublic's Steem account so my views, in some cases, are different from @arminnavabi's and the rest of the team in this video.

But I think your ideas are actually very much related to the first #SteemExclusive video that @arminnavabi made for @atheistrepublic:

STEEM EXCLUSIVE | Why Do Atheists Hate?
https://steemit.com/threespeak/@atheistrepublic/xqmqfonr


In addition to that, I got word last week that @atheistrepublic is providing commentary on other people's news articles in each of these news videos so the title and description is the title and description of the news article they are commenting on, and does not necessarily represent the views of @arminnavabi, the Team in the video or anyone on @atheistrepublic.

The things each person says in each video is what represents their individual views, NOT the title and NOT the description of the news article they are covering.

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Oh, thanks for letting me know. I thought the conversation was interesting.

I don't mind unpopular opinions and discussion of unpopular discussions.

I guess technically they could not carry an irrational fear of gay people, and thus not literally be homophobic, only "anti-gay bigots". I suppose that's just worse though.

I see what they're doing there. These folks are trying to play safe. They should go ponder on this. From their religious perspective, since gay sex is a sin, what about heterosexual sex? Confused folks 😌

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Well @queeirisa they still have their eyes... so they are either asexual or must have failed to read Christ's saying about gouging out your eyes in order to avoid lust 🤣

What then is homophobic? And how can they not be homophobic If they believe gay marriage is a sin? It's height of utter confusion or should I say hypocrisy?

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You are right!

Here is the dictionary definition from Google:

  1. Having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

https://www.google.com/search?q=homophobic&oq=homophobic&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6j69i61.2938j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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